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Re: Using electrical tape to ensure tight graft union: good idea?
« Reply #25 on: April 05, 2016, 07:16:37 PM »
I wrap grafts with a wide rubber band material that is special for grafting. I think I got that from Orchard valley supply. They also have bulk rolls of parafilm.
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Re: Using electrical tape to ensure tight graft union: good idea?
« Reply #26 on: April 05, 2016, 07:29:46 PM »
I'm with Peter, the special rubber bands for grafting are nice to work with. The ones I have used in the past were a little thinner than typical rubber bands so they were easy to pull tight without putting too much strain on small rootstocks.  The way I was taught to use them was to slip the end under a wrap & pull them tight to secure.  It seems like these special grafting bands probably had fine powder applied to them to aide in them slipping when you try to pull them tight like this.

I was not able to locate these anywhere earlier to get them so I have been using regular rubber bands from an office supply store.  The heavier thickness and the lack of powder makes these much harder to work with and I did have problems snapping rootstock when trying to work with very small rootstock material.  I'll have to check out Orchard Valley Supply.

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Re: Using electrical tape to ensure tight graft union: good idea?
« Reply #27 on: April 06, 2016, 07:39:37 AM »
Noob Question

Which parafilm should I get ?.
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Re: Using electrical tape to ensure tight graft union: good idea?
« Reply #28 on: April 06, 2016, 12:20:23 PM »
I got the laboratory roll, because I couldn't find that other one in the Netherlands. It works fine, I now do all my grafting with it. I cut strips of it, 1cm wide and accross the width of the big roll. First I strech it and wrap it two times, then I wrap it while twisting it (I just keep my hand in the same position and circle around the graft) to apply tight pressure on the graft, and then I come back to the same area, stretch the rest of the tape and wrap the scion in it to seal it. Works great.

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Re: Using electrical tape to ensure tight graft union: good idea?
« Reply #29 on: April 06, 2016, 12:46:19 PM »
I got the laboratory roll, because I couldn't find that other one in the Netherlands. It works fine, I now do all my grafting with it. I cut strips of it, 1cm wide and accross the width of the big roll. First I strech it and wrap it two times, then I wrap it while twisting it (I just keep my hand in the same position and circle around the graft) to apply tight pressure on the graft, and then I come back to the same area, stretch the rest of the tape and wrap the scion in it to seal it. Works great.

I also use the Parafilm M and it works fine.  I believe it was a bit cheaper than the Parafilm nursery grafting tape when I was looking into it.  Just need to cut it into strips like how Solko described, which might be a hassle for some.
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Re: Using electrical tape to ensure tight graft union: good idea?
« Reply #30 on: April 06, 2016, 10:50:33 PM »
I have tried both. I like the nursery parafilm better.

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Re: Using electrical tape to ensure tight graft union: good idea?
« Reply #31 on: April 08, 2016, 12:25:36 AM »
 I have used plumbers teflon tape when I've had nothing else, with great results. I don't unspool and break a length off, I unwind it directly off the spool as I'm winding it onto the graft, and it sticks to itself eliminating tie off knots. I have bought grafted plants with this material still covering the graft, so it appears  it could be left on. There is a yellow heavier gas tape available if the white version is too soft.

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Re: Using electrical tape to ensure tight graft union: good idea?
« Reply #32 on: April 08, 2016, 01:17:41 AM »
What works for me is Buddy Tape (preferred because it breaks less) or Parafilm (the 1/2" wide nursery version) on the first layer to seal the graft, followed by 1/2" white, vinyl tape (A.M. Leonard has it and it's cheap) to apply the pressure in the places that others are using rubber bands.  Very clean when all is said, and done the you can label the free end of the white tape with a permanent marker with the variety grafted and the date.  Those simple labels last for as long as a year or more, but should be replaced with something more permanent when you are positive the graft has taken.

Removing electrical tape sounds like it has the potential for problems.  Buddy Tape, Parafilm, and grafting tape are all readily available on the internet and work great.  The regular old green nursery tape is fine, too, instead of the grafting tape, but is slightly harder to work with than the thinner, white vinyl grafting tape.

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Re: Using electrical tape to ensure tight graft union: good idea?
« Reply #33 on: April 08, 2016, 07:11:30 PM »
I'd use the narrower grafting parafilm between the two. They're the same material so get the cheaper one. I don't know why the M (medical?) one is so popular on ebay. Maybe people get them for free from clinics and resell.

Asian plastic wrap is the cheapest and works well for them. It's the same material as the food wrap, just narrower. If you use the M tape by cutting it into narrow strips, you can do the same with food wraps as well. The narrower rolls are just more convenient so I prefer those.

 

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