Author Topic: Post Pics of Your GRAFTS, and Troubleshoot HERE! (Read 124207 times)

Mr. Clean · « **Reply #75 on:** April 24, 2012, 04:25:57 PM »

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behlgarden · « **Reply #76 on:** April 24, 2012, 04:30:24 PM »

Adam, I got a problem. One of my plum grafts on Apricot is flowering. Should I let it flower or snio off the flower? Graft took only one week ago. Thoughts?

Guanabanus · « **Reply #77 on:** April 24, 2012, 11:15:19 PM »

I remove flowers from small grafted plants, otherwise, they may set fruit and stunt the small plant.

FlyingFoxFruits · « **Reply #78 on:** April 25, 2012, 01:29:11 AM »

Har,

Post some pics of your grafts!

any thing funky? or unusual? like cocktail trees? or strange graft techniques!?

I have some trix up my sleeve, and was wondering if u'd share some of yours?

FlyingFoxFruits · « **Reply #79 on:** April 26, 2012, 11:17:58 PM »

behlgarden · « **Reply #80 on:** May 01, 2012, 07:02:05 PM »

My Persimmon grafts died, I found guey saap at the union but scion was dead. Thanks to Parafilm

Parafilm cracks whether you stretch it or not! My mistake was that I did not tie the union with anything else and the stock did not had enough strength to hold the scion tightly.

Also per my limited knowledge and experimental success and failures, I can testify that on Guava's best graft is to do bark graft on branches that are thicker than the scion. Cleft works on same size scion/root stock. I am yet to try t-budding, however I have a very bad patch budding where bud has about 1/4" all around exposed cambium on the branch/root stock but the scion is pushing, it amazes me! I had two buds there but one dried out, I opened the parafilm and found one dead and other bonded well and green (See pic). LOL

On Apples, appricots, plums, and Pears, my 7 year son could do the graft! all took! Sounds like the essiest to graft. I got a 7-in one Apple, 6-in-1 pear, 8-in-one plum and 7-in-1 appricot tree now. Nice!

behlgarden · « **Reply #81 on:** May 09, 2012, 01:42:29 PM »

I did some grafts last weekend, all were veneer grafts. Boy did I have a hard time after I cut the root stock/branches for veneer, the curve in branches got me when I tried to put the scion. I was not going to give up so I took the curve out by tightly wrapping the scions using green nurcery tape, ensuring there are no gaps (at least from I could see), then wrapped the whole scoin in buddy tape. Oh, I wrapped all scions in buddy tape before I grafted them, then I wrapped them again. I hope some take my grafts as this is my first time on mangoes.
Amrapali over Nam Doc Mai

Mallika over Alphonso

Amarpali over Alphonso. You can see how I kept the veneer layer of root stock, then I brought that over the scion at base and cut the rest. I saw this technique in one of the videos.

Mallika & maha chanok over Manila

emegar · « **Reply #82 on:** May 09, 2012, 01:56:57 PM »

Looks nice, Behl. I look forward to seeing lots of pictures from you in a few weeks with new flushes of growth! The one thing I did differently when I grafted my scions from Oscar was that I tried to cover all my finished grafts with paper from grocery bags to keep them from overheating in the sun. I basically stapled pieces of this paper over them to form opaque sleeves for the grafts. I had never really done this before, but I've heard that keeping mango scions shaded until they begin to push new growth can be helpful.

behlgarden · « **Reply #83 on:** May 09, 2012, 02:05:39 PM »

James, Two of my trees are planed in ground and I dont want to cover the grafts with bag as we are now heating up, temps when it hits 85 or higher, the temp inside the bag will pass 100 and it will cook the scion. I have another rootstock that you saw in 5 gal pot, I keep that in partial sun/shade outside. No green house for me. I really hope some of these take.

If you covered yours with bags, make sure to cut small holes at top so hot air can escape thereby not getting trapped and cooking the scions.

Cookie Monster · « **Reply #84 on:** May 09, 2012, 02:12:11 PM »

Yep, you can smooth out the curves by wrapping the vinyl tape really tight, stretching similar to how you would stretch parafilm while wrapping. I also find that it helps to make the cut in the rootstock longer and higher than the cut on the scion. That way the ridge at the top of the scion cut fits more flush on the rootstock.

Quote from: behlgarden on May 09, 2012, 01:42:29 PM

I did some grafts last weekend, all were veneer grafts. Boy did I have a hard time after I cut the root stock/branches for veneery, the curve in branches got me when I tried to put the scion. I was not going to give up so I took the curve out by tightly wrapping the scions using green nurcery tape, ensuring there are no gaps (at least from I could see), then wrapped the whole scoin in buddy tape. Oh, I wrapped all scions in buddy tape before I grafted them, then I wrapped them again. I hope some take my grafts as this is my first time on mangoes.
Amrapali over Nam Doc Mai

Mallika over Alphonso

Amarpali over Alphonso. You can see how I kept the veneer layer of root stock, then I brought that over the scion at base and cut the rest. I saw this technique in one of the videos.

Mallika & maha chanok over Manila

behlgarden · « **Reply #85 on:** May 09, 2012, 06:01:51 PM »

CM, from what I read, do you mean the entire scion should be kissing the rootstock in veneer graft? I went about 4 inch long lap, some of my scions were 8 inches or longer. Take a look at 3rd picture, I couldnt lap anymore as its hard to align cambium layers over a very long length on a branch.

Thoughts?

Cookie Monster · « **Reply #86 on:** May 09, 2012, 06:34:06 PM »

No, you don't have to cut the entire length of the scion. Let's say that you make a 2 inch veneer cut on the scion. You will then make a 2 1/2 inch cut on the rootstock. The start of your cut on the scion will leave a little ridge. Making the cut longer on the rootstock allows that ridge to fit more easily. It's not as much of a problem on mango scions, which are generally fairly pliable. But, that technique helps me with side veneers on annonas, which are more woody and less pliable.

Quote from: behlgarden on May 09, 2012, 06:01:51 PM

CM, from what I read, do you mean the entire scion should be kissing the rootstock in veneer graft? I went about 4 inch long lap, some of my scions were 8 inches or longer. Take a look at 3rd picture, I couldnt lap anymore as its hard to align cambium layers over a very long length on a branch.

Thoughts?

behlgarden · « **Reply #87 on:** May 09, 2012, 07:15:14 PM »

Thanks Jeff, I did that. otherwise scion was not coming in contact with rootstock. On Annonas, I found Cleft the easiest way to graft along with Bark (need to tightly secure the union) and even T-budding. Clefts were fast takes.

simon_grow · « **Reply #88 on:** May 09, 2012, 08:42:27 PM »

Nice grafts behl, lets see some updates when those pop!
Simon

MangoFang · « **Reply #89 on:** May 10, 2012, 12:18:25 AM »

yep, looks like you done good, behl!

Keep us posted......

Fang

adiel · « **Reply #90 on:** May 10, 2012, 08:50:55 AM »

Good Job Behl.

Greg1029 · « **Reply #91 on:** May 10, 2012, 08:35:37 PM »

Quote from: Greg1029 on April 12, 2012, 07:46:22 PM

Looking for advice. Here is a mango veneer graft I did last september. The scion is NDM and the rootstock is Manilla. The scion never pushed but is still alive and fused to the rootstock. Should I just leave the tree alone or is there something I could do to help it to push?

Thanks, Greg

My NDM graft from last Sept. is now pushing. Looks like cutting the rootstock was all I needed to do.

Greg

murahilin · « **Reply #92 on:** May 10, 2012, 08:44:19 PM »

Quote from: Greg1029 on May 10, 2012, 08:35:37 PM

My NDM graft from last Sept. is now pushing. Looks like cutting the rootstock was all I needed to do.

Greg

Good to see that your graft has pushed. It looks healthy. Here is a good video on veneer grafting mango.


Veneer grafting

Guanabanus · « **Reply #93 on:** May 11, 2012, 12:41:10 AM »

Cutting the rootstock just partly through above the graft, and then bending the top of the rootstock back, will usually make the graft push while still keeping the roots well fed.

behlgarden · « **Reply #94 on:** May 11, 2012, 05:51:57 PM »

Hi Folks, in California Weather where temps are in mid 80's right now, how many days/weeks you think it might take for grafts to take/push?

Also, should I try to fertilize OR give the plant a boost of Dyna Grow K-L-N?

Mike T · « **Reply #95 on:** May 11, 2012, 06:17:48 PM »

Here is double grafted durian rootstock that I am yet to put a scion on and mild elephant footing with tahitian lime on flying dragon.I don't know if double rootstocks would be worthwhile for mangoes and I have seen elephant footing at times.I presume when the rootstock is too vigorous for the scion it happens.

Guanabanus · « **Reply #96 on:** May 12, 2012, 12:10:32 AM »

A whole thread about mis-labeled annonas, including faux 'Genova Red' seems to have disappeared into thin air!

murahilin · « **Reply #97 on:** May 12, 2012, 12:17:38 AM »

Quote from: Guanabanus on May 12, 2012, 12:10:32 AM

A whole thread about mis-labeled annonas, including faux 'Genova Red' seems to have disappeared into thin air!

It started off as a buy,sell, trade post then transformed into an informative post but I didn't move it from its original home in the buy, sell, trade forum. Should I move it here to this forum?

bsbullie · « **Reply #98 on:** May 12, 2012, 12:20:50 AM »

Quote from: murahilin on May 12, 2012, 12:17:38 AM

Quote from: Guanabanus on May 12, 2012, 12:10:32 AM
A whole thread about mis-labeled annonas, including faux 'Genova Red' seems to have disappeared into thin air!

It started off as a buy,sell, trade post then transformed into an informative post but I didn't move it from its original home in the buy, sell, trade forum. Should I move it here to this forum?

Why not split it like the Hurricane post...

murahilin · « **Reply #99 on:** May 12, 2012, 12:25:24 AM »

Quote from: bsbullie on May 12, 2012, 12:20:50 AM

Why not split it like the Hurricane post...

Because I don't have time to moderate everything on this forum.

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