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« Reply #775 on: February 17, 2016, 12:51:16 AM »
Re-grafting might be better if the union has dried out. But then if the scion is pushing new flush it's using its energy reserve and could fail anyway. I'm not sure what will help. Pinching off the tip of the new flush? It'll then use some energy to heal the wound.

Maybe just re-graft and don't think too much about it. Try to keep it cool and shaded. If it takes, then that's great.

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« Reply #776 on: February 17, 2016, 06:10:30 PM »
I have had this problem where scion was green and at times pushing while union looked black, I opened up the union, cut the graft out, and regrafted it at new spot, removed blackened part of scion out. as long as you see fresh green moist wood when you cut scion again, it has a slight change it might take.  I have been successful doing so.

few scions were shivered up a bit, upon regrafting the scions got boost and came back to life. if scion is precious and cannot be easily found, I would recommend trying this as an option.

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« Reply #777 on: February 24, 2016, 09:45:02 AM »
I grafted up a bunch of Birula, Calostro and Randhir last night, and will be working on some Dream today. This pic isn't representative of the average cut by any means, but I was pretty happy with how well this one lined up. Rootstock approx 3/16

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« Reply #778 on: February 24, 2016, 09:57:38 AM »
Nice job Dom,

No root stock for me this year. I planted a bunch of Dr. White seedlings so hopefully next year i'll have some fun.

Put me down for a Dream and if you want help experimenting with CA varieties on the east coast i can keep them in a pot.

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« Reply #779 on: February 24, 2016, 10:19:56 AM »
I grafted up a bunch of Birula, Calostro and Randhir last night, and will be working on some Dream today. This pic isn't representative of the average cut by any means, but I was pretty happy with how well this one lined up. Rootstock approx 3/16



That looks great Dominic, good luck! Btw, what rootstocks are you using?

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« Reply #780 on: February 24, 2016, 10:42:21 AM »
I grafted up a bunch of Birula, Calostro and Randhir last night, and will be working on some Dream today. This pic isn't representative of the average cut by any means, but I was pretty happy with how well this one lined up. Rootstock approx 3/16



That looks great Dominic, good luck! Btw, what rootstocks are you using?

Edited to add: Thanks!

Cherimoya from an unknown variety found at an Asian food store in the Tampa area. Here's a pic of one of the fruits if that helps. This one looks rather poor, but I can't find any other pics.

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« Reply #781 on: February 24, 2016, 08:06:27 PM »
I grafted up a bunch of Birula, Calostro and Randhir last night, and will be working on some Dream today. This pic isn't representative of the average cut by any means, but I was pretty happy with how well this one lined up. Rootstock approx 3/16



That looks great Dominic, good luck! Btw, what rootstocks are you using?

Edited to add: Thanks!

Cherimoya from an unknown variety found at an Asian food store in the Tampa area. Here's a pic of one of the fruits if that helps. This one looks rather poor, but I can't find any other pics.



Hard to tell from the pic but you should get good results. You should've gotten a few sticks of cherimoyas like Libby and Mcpherson which are known to grow well in Hawaii might be worth a try in FL

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« Reply #782 on: February 24, 2016, 08:13:30 PM »
I grafted up a bunch of Birula, Calostro and Randhir last night, and will be working on some Dream today. This pic isn't representative of the average cut by any means, but I was pretty happy with how well this one lined up. Rootstock approx 3/16




looks good!

btw, it seems to be much sturdier if you make a deeper cut when veneer grafting.
the shallower the cuts, the more likely your scion can be bumped off, right after it heals.
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« Reply #783 on: February 24, 2016, 08:36:24 PM »
JF - I'm still kicking around the idea of trying some cherimoya down here. I think Berto has one that should be fruiting size before too much longer, though I can't remember the variety. Even if I can't get it to fruit, I might use one to play around with breeding some better atemoya.

Adam - Thanks for the tip. Just got my kit together to get some Dream grafted, so I'll be sure to make them a bit deeper.

How long do you like to make the cuts for veneer grafts with annonas? 1-2" seems to be what I see most often, but I guess the idea is the greater the cambium area in contact the better the chances are. Are longer cuts better for veneer grafts?
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« Reply #784 on: February 24, 2016, 10:32:16 PM »
JF - I'm still kicking around the idea of trying some cherimoya down here. I think Berto has one that should be fruiting size before too much longer, though I can't remember the variety. Even if I can't get it to fruit, I might use one to play around with breeding some better atemoya.

Adam - Thanks for the tip. Just got my kit together to get some Dream grafted, so I'll be sure to make them a bit deeper.

How long do you like to make the cuts for veneer grafts with annonas? 1-2" seems to be what I see most often, but I guess the idea is the greater the cambium area in contact the better the chances are. Are longer cuts better for veneer grafts?

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I wish Berto good luck with his cherimoya seedling experiment in Ft Myers. There are 4 var. of cherimoyas that are grown in the tropics
Cumbe
Mcpherson
Libby
Spain
I have all of them in my scion sale,San Mateo ( seedling of Cumbe), although they might not be listed

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« Reply #785 on: February 27, 2016, 08:55:00 AM »
EDIT: No success with this method so far. All of these died.

 So I'm feeling adventurous today. Here's an absurdly small veneer graft of a single bud of Dream on to a Gefner seedling. I have another 4 gefner seedlings this size, and depending on how the day goes might do the rest of them and see how it goes. I don't really expect much to come of it, but it would be pretty cool if they could be reliably grafted when small.




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« Reply #786 on: February 27, 2016, 10:00:04 AM »
As a beginner I would start with veneer graft it's the easiest. During the summer you don't need tp prep just time you flushes. You'll get about 4 chances during this time

That's funny you say that, veneer seemed to be the most complicated. I thought cleft grafting was easier. I would love to watch you do some when the time comes, that's the only way I really learn.  :)

I never had luck with veneer grafting, to me it's either cleft (v) or bark grafting depending on diameter of rootstock.
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« Reply #787 on: February 29, 2016, 10:49:36 AM »
I grafted a bunch of Calostro, Birula and Randhir back on 2/23, and some of them are already pushing buds. I remember reading somewhere here that them pushing early is a bad sign. Shall I commence mourning?
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« Reply #788 on: February 29, 2016, 11:04:13 AM »
I grafted a bunch of Calostro, Birula and Randhir back on 2/23, and some of them are already pushing buds. I remember reading somewhere here that them pushing early is a bad sign. Shall I commence mourning?

That's testimony of how the wood was prepped
You are ok it should leaf out in two weeks

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« Reply #789 on: February 29, 2016, 12:45:56 PM »
I multi-grafted my in-ground small mulberry tree 3 weeks ago. One graft is aggressively pushing fruits (!!) and leaves, one is showing a bit of green under parafilm, and one seems totally asleep.

Should I remove the vigorous grower's fruits so the tree can direct energy to other scions? They are still hidden inside the new leaves right now.
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« Reply #790 on: February 29, 2016, 01:37:28 PM »
I'm thinking mulberry fruits are so small they won't interfere with the tree's growth if you let them grow. On cuttings without roots, you should remove them.

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« Reply #791 on: February 29, 2016, 02:00:37 PM »
I grafted a bunch of Calostro, Birula and Randhir back on 2/23, and some of them are already pushing buds. I remember reading somewhere here that them pushing early is a bad sign. Shall I commence mourning?

That's testimony of how the wood was prepped
You are ok it should leaf out in two weeks

Excellent, thanks.
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« Reply #792 on: February 29, 2016, 02:29:45 PM »
I'm thinking mulberry fruits are so small they won't interfere with the tree's growth if you let them grow. On cuttings without roots, you should remove them.

Thanks! Well I guess I am just worried that this one scion is not showing any signs of life yet. Trying to find out if removing fruits would improve its chance!
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« Reply #793 on: February 29, 2016, 02:58:13 PM »
I grafted a bunch of Calostro, Birula and Randhir back on 2/23, and some of them are already pushing buds. I remember reading somewhere here that them pushing early is a bad sign. Shall I commence mourning?

That's testimony of how the wood was prepped
You are ok it should leaf out in two weeks

Hey Dom, I grafts from Frank are starting to push as well. His budwood makes me look like I know what I am doing. LOL It will be exciting to get these California fruits going out here. Good luck!
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« Reply #794 on: March 04, 2016, 11:16:07 AM »
Hey Adam, those 47-18 grafts are starting to push! I'm pretty excited to be able to keep this rare hybrid going.


Josh, my scions from Frank are almost all pushing out, and my big reds from Adam have just started peeking out. No love from the giant Mexican or PPC atemoya yet.
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« Reply #795 on: March 04, 2016, 06:18:12 PM »
40 varieties on this mango



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« Reply #796 on: March 04, 2016, 06:46:15 PM »
Nice Frank! Now you've got to name each one from memory.  ;)
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« Reply #797 on: March 04, 2016, 06:49:03 PM »
40 varieties on this mango


WHOA!!! Do you have a catalog of what the varieties are!
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« Reply #798 on: March 04, 2016, 06:51:32 PM »
Nice tree JF, in full bloom!

Here are some pictures of the Myrica cerifera rootstock with Myrica rubra grafts which look like they took.



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« Reply #799 on: March 05, 2016, 12:05:25 AM »
Nice tree JF, in full bloom!

Here are some pictures of the Myrica cerifera rootstock with Myrica rubra grafts which look like they took.





I wish you luck with the rubra. How long ago were they grafted? For me they seem to always push from stored energy and then die about a week or two later.

 

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