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ZILL
197 SE 27th Avenue
Boynton Beach, FL33435-7607
Phone: (561) 737-9419 CALL AHEAD!


Spent some time at Walter Zills home and mango store today, it turned out to be a great Sunday!  On sale were a large variety of Mango and Carambola at prices ranging from $1-$2 a pound. 
He has the original Pickering Mango tree growing in his yard and is happy to show it off! I ran into Har, he was bringing the remaining mangoes from the days sale at Truly Tropical and had a nice chat with him as well. All together we picked up over fifty pounds of mangoes!  Along with the short tour he provided me a printed document about the origin of  the Pickering Mango that he had written, with his consent, I will pass it on..

MANGO VARIETY PICKERING
By Walter Zill (pictured above in blue shorts)

"Beginning as a chance seedling sprouting in the grove planted by Laurence Zill in Boynton Beach, FL, it first caught my attention about 1980 when I saw about a half dozen fruit being supported by an unusually small plant having a trunk diameter of about one inch, with at total height about four feet, and numerous branches that bore small fruit.  The fruit were not impressive in any other way other than exisitng in abundance on such a tiny first fruiting seedling.  They turned bright yellow when ripe, and were suprisingly firm.  The flavor tasted to me somewhat like Carrie or Julie, and the growth habit known as Sophie Frey.  Animal habits being what they are, I surmise that a seed got transplanted some few feet west of a large fruiting Carrie tree where it germinated in the undercover beneath the limbs of an Irwin tree.  In 1983 a severe freeze caused great damage in the grove, killing back some mango limbs that were up to three inches in diameter, and resulting in nearly every mango leaf on the premises turning brown.  That exception, finding green leaves on that little seedling, caught my undivided attention.  I thought perhaps the plant had more resistance to cold than other mango varieties, but subsequnet seasons have shown damage much like other mangos when the temperature dips below freezing.  Eventually the seedling was transplanted  to where it could demonstrate it qualities.  It grew compactly and fruited heavily, fruit clinging  fairly well on the tree when ripe, with little bruising when they dropped.  When the tree grew larger, and in a season when fewer fruit set, the fruit weighed up to about two pounds, though average normal season weight is near one pound.  There came a time when Dr. Wayne Pickering inquired of me about having a mango named for him.  Since that variety had proven of sufficient worth to merit a good name, I sent a box of fruit from it to him to get his reaction.  When they ripened, and he had fairly sampled them, his response was, "That's my baby!".  So the name "Pickering" stuck.  When fully ripe it's among the sweetest mangos, with a texture sutable for slicing and dicing, and it's fine fibers providing desrable bulk.  As trees were multiplied and put into commercial plantings, it has provem very productive from compact trees.  Many who have become familiar with eating the "Pickering" often specify it for the eating qualities they like. It matures relatively early in mango season."

ZILL
197 SE 27th Avenue
Boynton Beach, FL33435-7607
Phone: (561) 737-9419 CALL AHEAD!

« Last Edit: July 15, 2012, 06:12:01 PM by pj1881 »

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Re: Zills Mango Store - Boynton Beach Florida (Pickering Origin Info)
« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2012, 06:29:13 PM »
Thanks for sharing! I enjoyed the Pickering history and photos.
They're like the Varmint-Cong...

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« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2012, 08:12:28 PM »


Nice!! Walter plus his wife I would guess. Plus a younger woman buying mangoes and asking a few questions.


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Re: Zills Mango Store - Boynton Beach Florida (Pickering Origin Info)
« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2012, 08:53:44 PM »
Excellent info.

Thanks PJ !

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Re: Zills Mango Store - Boynton Beach Florida (Pickering Origin Info)
« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2012, 10:06:07 PM »
Walter has some enormous Pickering trees growing on his property (by Pickering standards at least)

He is a consummate gentleman as well.

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« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2012, 10:31:07 PM »
Walter has some enormous Pickering trees growing on his property (by Pickering standards at least)

He is a consummate gentleman as well.
How big?  Are they top worked or actual grafted Pickering?
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Re: Zills Mango Store - Boynton Beach Florida (Pickering Origin Info)
« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2012, 10:48:50 PM »
The one in the front is the original seedling.

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Re: Zills Mango Store - Boynton Beach Florida (Pickering Origin Info)
« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2012, 11:05:37 PM »
Walter has some enormous Pickering trees growing on his property (by Pickering standards at least)

He is a consummate gentleman as well.
How big?  Are they top worked or actual grafted Pickering?

Over 20 ft tall.

Some are top worked and some are 'normal'. The original tree has been cut back numerous times over the years and is still 'large' for a Pickering.

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Re: Zills Mango Store - Boynton Beach Florida (Pickering Origin Info)
« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2012, 11:47:27 PM »
I wish I would have known that Zill had a mango store. I went to Excalibur fairly close.


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Re: Zills Mango Store - Boynton Beach Florida (Pickering Origin Info)
« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2012, 12:31:58 PM »
I wish I would have known that Zill had a mango store. I went to Excalibur fairly close.




That is Walter Zill, the other Zill brothers place and grove. Gary Zill is doing all the grafting growing and breeding (you hear about) and selling to nurseries at another close by location. So you were in Florida for a few days. Hope you saw a lot of fruit related places you wanted to. Did you go to Fairchild? Anyways.......


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Re: Zills Mango Store - Boynton Beach Florida (Pickering Origin Info)
« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2012, 09:03:23 PM »
Is the sapodilla tree at the entrance to Excalibur an Alano?
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Re: Zills Mango Store - Boynton Beach Florida (Pickering Origin Info)
« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2012, 09:06:20 PM »
Is the sapodilla tree at the entrance to Excalibur an Alano?

I'm pretty sure it is Alano.  Richard Wilson began touting Alano as the sapodilla of choice back in the mid-90's.

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« Reply #12 on: July 18, 2012, 01:14:40 AM »
Is the sapodilla tree at the entrance to Excalibur an Alano?
Yes, and a very productive one.  Its been fruiting since January, and still has fruit on it.
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Re: Zills Mango Store - Boynton Beach Florida (Pickering Origin Info)
« Reply #13 on: July 18, 2012, 01:18:24 AM »
did we argue about this earlier in this forum??

I said I heard of pickerings getting large...maybe this is the case of such a tree...getting to be larger than what some consider a true dwarf..

Maybe it can exceed 30ft here in FL in time?? maybe 40 or more like coghsall??
He is a consummate gentleman as well.
Walter has some enormous Pickering trees growing on his property (by Pickering standards at least)

How big?  Are they top worked or actual grafted Pickering?

Over 20 ft tall.

Some are top worked and some are 'normal'. The original tree has been cut back numerous times over the years and is still 'large' for a Pickering.

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« Reply #14 on: July 18, 2012, 02:00:55 AM »
did we argue about this earlier in this forum??

I said I heard of pickerings getting large...maybe this is the case of such a tree...getting to be larger than what some consider a true dwarf..

Maybe it can exceed 30ft here in FL in time?? maybe 40 or more like coghsall??
He is a consummate gentleman as well.
Walter has some enormous Pickering trees growing on his property (by Pickering standards at least)

How big?  Are they top worked or actual grafted Pickering?

Over 20 ft tall.

Some are top worked and some are 'normal'. The original tree has been cut back numerous times over the years and is still 'large' for a Pickering.
this large tree is the original seedling...I wonder if grafting it cause the slower growth and smaller size or if it will eventually get the same size as the seedling with time.  From the one I have, it definitely seems to be at the very least a much slower grower when grafted.  Stays compact and does not push many flushes per year.
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« Reply #15 on: July 18, 2012, 01:16:24 PM »
I wish I would have known that Zill had a mango store. I went to Excalibur fairly close.




That is Walter Zill, the other Zill brothers place and grove. Gary Zill is doing all the grafting growing and breeding (you hear about) and selling to nurseries at another close by location. So you were in Florida for a few days. Hope you saw a lot of fruit related places you wanted to. Did you go to Fairchild? Anyways.......


Hi Zands

Yes. I was down in Miami on business for 4 days but on my way back from Velocity in Sebastian FL I made a stop to Excalibur. I brought some mangos from Miami and Excalibur.

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Re: Zills Mango Store - Boynton Beach Florida (Pickering Origin Info)
« Reply #16 on: July 21, 2012, 05:32:18 PM »
I enjoyed this read. :)

Pickering is an excellent mango in my book.

Pickering...Carrie.....such goodness from a Julie :D:D.

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« Reply #17 on: September 24, 2012, 02:47:32 PM »
Follow-Up:

My husband has fished with Walter Zill for many years-we stopped  by on Saturday.  Mr Zill gave us written stories about his fishing expeditions-he is a wonderful author. I can share some if anyone is interested.

We stopped to say hi and to buy some honey as well:

IF anyone is interested, The Zill's have hives on their property and they sell organic honey that's delicious.


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« Reply #18 on: September 25, 2012, 05:47:36 AM »
Hi PJ,
Thanks for sharing :) I enjoyed seeing them pics and the story of Pickering 8)
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« Reply #19 on: February 16, 2015, 10:54:34 PM »
Walter used to have a listing on localharvest.org. Looks like it got yanked? He probably got annoyed with too many geeked up mango freaks calling him / stopping by to look for the "rage" mangoes :-).
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« Reply #21 on: February 17, 2015, 09:09:30 PM »
The advertisement on localharvest was removed by Zills Mangoes but have no fear, as long as there are mangoes on the trees, they will be open for business.   The ad might be put back up but if not, do not let that deter you.  I will keep people informed as to availability as we near the actual season.  Should you have any questions,  dont hesitate to PM me.
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