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Ross Sapote setting fruit in San Diego
« on: August 31, 2016, 04:22:16 PM »
I'm excited, my Ross Sapote that I've had for two years flowered for the first time this year and has surprisingly already set a bunch of fruit. Hopefully they ripen properly. Has anyone grown this plant in California?

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Re: Ross Sapote setting fruit in San Diego
« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2016, 07:13:01 PM »
Congratulations! Very nice precocious tree, is it grafted? Can't really see the exact size
But looks like 3 feet?
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Re: Ross Sapote setting fruit in San Diego
« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2016, 08:05:20 PM »
Has to be grafted Raul !!! I hate these guys who can just go to a nursery and buy a grafted plant that will fruit in 1 2 3... LOL....no offense guys , I am just jealous ....we here in Mexico have to start everything from seed and wait xxxxx years . Fortunately the next generation of Mexican Rare Fruit Fanatics will benefit from out efforts .
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Re: Ross Sapote setting fruit in San Diego
« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2016, 08:16:01 PM »
Cgame
this is  canistel markL has been successful fruiting them in Chula Vista you shouldn't have a problem.  Here in OC they fruit very well.

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Re: Ross Sapote setting fruit in San Diego
« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2016, 04:57:25 AM »
I'm not sure what you mean, JF. It should be Ross Sapote; it was sold to me as such and its leaves are a lot larger than the leaves of my similarly-sized canistel tree.

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Re: Ross Sapote setting fruit in San Diego
« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2016, 07:54:05 AM »
Cool.
What kind of soil do you use ?
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Re: Ross Sapote setting fruit in San Diego
« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2016, 01:06:40 PM »
In this case it's in pure Kellogg's soil, if I remember right it's Patio Plus. It's supposed to be mixed with native soil but native soil here is clay. With the pure soil it's very fast-draining which is good for some things, and ridiculously fertile of course.

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Re: Ross Sapote setting fruit in San Diego
« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2016, 02:11:18 PM »
Cool. The fruits look flattened like other Ross sapote photos on the web. I guess there's a debate on whether it's just a variety of canistel.
You guys have all sorts of good stuff in SD.

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Re: Ross Sapote setting fruit in San Diego
« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2016, 09:16:27 PM »
Awesome. Let us know how the fruit develops. I always looked at Ross as another canistel variety.

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Re: Ross Sapote setting fruit in San Diego
« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2016, 09:22:58 PM »
Awesome. Let us know how the fruit develops. I always looked at Ross as another canistel variety.

That's exactly what it is.....i don't think CGame understands this.

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Re: Ross Sapote setting fruit in San Diego
« Reply #10 on: September 02, 2016, 09:09:35 AM »
Yes, it may be a canistel type fruit but taste and texture is very different than a Trompo, Bruce, Fairchild 2, etc.  It also has a different shape and does not color up to that vivid classic gold coloration.
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Re: Ross Sapote setting fruit in San Diego
« Reply #11 on: September 02, 2016, 01:02:01 PM »
I've always suspected it's actually a natural hybrid of canistel and some other pouteria, possibly lucuma.

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Re: Ross Sapote setting fruit in San Diego
« Reply #12 on: September 14, 2016, 07:02:07 AM »
It may be a hybrid but my experience here is its less hardy than my lucuma moist and dry races,  campechina, eerwah, australis , viridis, macrophylla, macrocarpa, slightly less hardy than multiflora but more hardy than my caimito, guinanensis and maybe on par with torta sp glabra.

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Re: Ross Sapote setting fruit in San Diego
« Reply #13 on: September 14, 2016, 09:52:04 AM »
Has to be grafted Raul !!! I hate these guys who can just go to a nursery and buy a grafted plant that will fruit in 1 2 3... LOL....no offense guys , I am just jealous ....we here in Mexico have to start everything from seed and wait xxxxx years . Fortunately the next generation of Mexican Rare Fruit Fanatics will benefit from out efforts .

I know what you mean Luc - we are in the same boat here in Uganda.
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Re: Ross Sapote setting fruit in San Diego
« Reply #14 on: December 12, 2016, 02:52:55 PM »
The texture is slightly different than a canistel but it does not produce like Bruce or Trompo
Here is a pic of a 1.5 year old fruited last season has over 100 this season on this small tree






« Last Edit: December 12, 2016, 07:29:27 PM by JF »

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Re: Ross Sapote setting fruit in San Diego
« Reply #15 on: December 12, 2016, 06:21:05 PM »
Awesome. Let us know how the fruit develops. I always looked at Ross as another canistel variety.

It is probably a different species than canistel, according to T.D. Pennington, taxonomist for sapotaceae. But he didn't know what species it is. So i'ts still a question mark: Pouteria sp.
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Re: Ross Sapote setting fruit in San Diego
« Reply #16 on: December 12, 2016, 07:05:10 PM »
Nice tree CGameP.-hope you get fruit to taste! 8)
That's interesting Oscar, that it's unknown species, how true do the seeds come to parent?

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Re: Ross Sapote setting fruit in San Diego
« Reply #17 on: December 13, 2016, 01:35:06 AM »
Nice tree CGameP.-hope you get fruit to taste! 8)
That's interesting Oscar, that it's unknown species, how true do the seeds come to parent?
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Fairly true, but there is some variation.
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Re: Ross Sapote setting fruit in San Diego
« Reply #18 on: December 13, 2016, 06:37:44 AM »
It may be a hybrid but my experience here is its less hardy than my lucuma moist and dry races,  campechina, eerwah, australis , viridis, macrophylla, macrocarpa, slightly less hardy than multiflora but more hardy than my caimito, guinanensis and maybe on par with torta sp glabra.
Druss: That's good information.
Question: Have you tasted PAustralis, Peerwah and PCotinifolia? do you think they are worth having for their taste, or mostly "collector's item"?
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Re: Ross Sapote setting fruit in San Diego
« Reply #19 on: December 13, 2016, 11:09:54 AM »
Nice tree CGameP.-hope you get fruit to taste! 8)
That's interesting Oscar, that it's unknown species, how true do the seeds come to parent?
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Fairly true, but there is some variation.
Thanks Oscar,there's hope for my seedling then! ;)

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Re: Ross Sapote setting fruit in San Diego
« Reply #20 on: December 14, 2016, 03:45:29 AM »
Nice tree CGameP.-hope you get fruit to taste! 8)
That's interesting Oscar, that it's unknown species, how true do the seeds come to parent?
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Fairly true, but there is some variation.
Thanks Oscar,there's hope for my seedling then! ;)
Will definitely be delicious. Might be some variation in size, shape, and productivity.
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Re: Ross Sapote setting fruit in San Diego
« Reply #21 on: March 28, 2017, 03:54:45 PM »
After 7 months, the first fruit finally ripened! There are four more that are almost ripe but are still green. The first one was one of the smallest but was good nevertheless! It has the cheesecake texture and taste similar to Bruce canistel (the only other pouteria I've eaten) with perhaps a hint of nutmeg. Pretty good!



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Re: Ross Sapote setting fruit in San Diego
« Reply #22 on: March 28, 2017, 04:59:29 PM »
After 7 months, the first fruit finally ripened! There are four more that are almost ripe but are still green. The first one was one of the smallest but was good nevertheless! It has the cheesecake texture and taste similar to Bruce canistel (the only other pouteria I've eaten) with perhaps a hint of nutmeg. Pretty good!


Excellent grow and fruit!  I was thinking of picking up one of these this year.  If it grows well in your mostly clay soil it should perform well in mine.  I have some fairly heavy clay about two feet below some reasonable topsoil.  Where did you purchase yours?
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Re: Ross Sapote setting fruit in San Diego
« Reply #23 on: March 28, 2017, 08:09:01 PM »
I bought mine from Top Tropicals. It is actually not in clay; I had dug up all of the root-infested clay next to my house and filled it entirely with potting soil so it's highly organic and really fast draining. The soil's only a couple feet deep at most though, with a slab of pavement underneath, so hopefully it's sufficient depth. If not I'll have to move the tree.

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Re: Ross Sapote setting fruit in San Diego
« Reply #24 on: March 29, 2017, 09:10:20 AM »
Okay then, a complete soil change.  That makes sense.  I try and do the same in the worst soil areas I have and completely remove the soil and add new.  All the plants seem to grow better and as you said have better drainage.  I hope your Ross Sapote has massive bloom this year and good fruit set.  Keep us updated.
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