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Re: Dream Atemoya or Dream Cherimoya? Which is it?
« Reply #25 on: January 20, 2017, 02:16:07 PM »
Yes, I'm sure it was on poor rootstock (pond apple).  Because I don't live anywhere near Bradenton, I was never able to attempt to get a replacement.  50 bucks down the drain on that one!  Wayne sent me several emails, implying I wasn't giving it proper care, never mentioning a rootstock issue.
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Re: Dream Atemoya or Dream Cherimoya? Which is it?
« Reply #26 on: January 20, 2017, 02:21:05 PM »
Are there any of the AS for sale or going to be

scions will be available in March
That'll be great!  Thanks, Frank.

John as I recall you had an issue with dream it probably was on the wrong rootstock have some one graft Arka sahan on cherimoya first or atemoya rootstock not on the cheap pond apple

I should make a couple Arka Sahan/Dream cocktail trees.
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Re: Dream Atemoya or Dream Cherimoya? Which is it?
« Reply #27 on: January 20, 2017, 02:22:16 PM »
Oooo, Dom.  That would be cool!
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Re: Dream Atemoya or Dream Cherimoya? Which is it?
« Reply #28 on: January 20, 2017, 04:29:27 PM »
Yes, I'm sure it was on poor rootstock (pond apple).  Because I don't live anywhere near Bradenton, I was never able to attempt to get a replacement.  50 bucks down the drain on that one!  Wayne sent me several emails, implying I wasn't giving it proper care, never mentioning a rootstock issue.

Wayne has a lot more to explain about Dream

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Re: Dream Atemoya or Dream Cherimoya? Which is it?
« Reply #29 on: January 21, 2017, 10:19:51 AM »
Wayne didn't take out a patent on "Dream Cherimoya," did he?  What about the Indians who developed Arka Sahan?  Is it patented?  Like someone said, the only way to know for sure if they are one and the same is to do genetic testing.  Otherwise, just enjoy the fruit.  I like Dom's idea of grafting both on the same tree.
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Re: Dream Atemoya or Dream Cherimoya? Which is it?
« Reply #30 on: January 23, 2017, 08:24:39 PM »
I purchased two 7 gal. Dreams from Wayne Clifton back in January 2016. The two pictures were taken at Wayne's house the day I picked them up. I sold the smaller Dream this past summer to a forum member that lives nearby. The other picture is what the Dream looks like one year later.







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Re: Dream Atemoya or Dream Cherimoya? Which is it?
« Reply #31 on: January 23, 2017, 09:57:33 PM »
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Nice Gream! I would graft arka sahan on a couple of those branches.
 


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Re: Dream Atemoya or Dream Cherimoya? Which is it?
« Reply #32 on: January 23, 2017, 10:15:31 PM »
Thanks JF, I will be the first person on your scion list this March for the many varieties of Atemoyas your growing. I really enjoyed the Calostro, Birula, and Pink Mammoth Atemoya fruit I purchased from you recently.

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Re: Dream Atemoya or Dream Cherimoya? Which is it?
« Reply #33 on: January 23, 2017, 11:49:11 PM »
Thanks JF, I will be the first person on your scion list this March for the many varieties of Atemoyas your growing. I really enjoyed the Calostro, Birula, and Pink Mammoth Atemoya fruit I purchased from you recently.

You are very welcome XX

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Re: Dream Atemoya or Dream Cherimoya? Which is it?
« Reply #34 on: January 24, 2017, 02:35:17 AM »
Wayne didn't take out a patent on "Dream Cherimoya," did he?  What about the Indians who developed Arka Sahan?  Is it patented?  Like someone said, the only way to know for sure if they are one and the same is to do genetic testing.  Otherwise, just enjoy the fruit.  I like Dom's idea of grafting both on the same tree.
I wonder why people don't just take Wayne's word for it, that he planted a seedling, and the seedling grew poorly on it's own roots, so he grafted onto pond apple and cherimoya, at which point the scions from his seedling were able to grow vigorously.  He never took scions back with him, it was just seeds....he's not a liar, or crazy, or a drunkard, or a druggie...

take his word for it, he planted the seed himself.

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Re: Dream Atemoya or Dream Cherimoya? Which is it?
« Reply #35 on: January 24, 2017, 08:43:34 AM »
Wayne didn't take out a patent on "Dream Cherimoya," did he?  What about the Indians who developed Arka Sahan?  Is it patented?  Like someone said, the only way to know for sure if they are one and the same is to do genetic testing.  Otherwise, just enjoy the fruit.  I like Dom's idea of grafting both on the same tree.
I wonder why people don't just take Wayne's word for it, that he planted a seedling, and the seedling grew poorly on it's own roots, so he grafted onto pond apple and cherimoya, at which point the scions from his seedling were able to grow vigorously.  He never took scions back with him, it was just seeds....he's not a liar, or crazy, or a drunkard, or a druggie...

take his word for it, he planted the seed himself.

100% agree

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Re: Dream Atemoya or Dream Cherimoya? Which is it?
« Reply #36 on: January 25, 2017, 05:47:47 PM »
Arka Sahan



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Re: Dream Atemoya or Dream Cherimoya? Which is it?
« Reply #37 on: March 04, 2017, 03:38:41 AM »
I'd like to get one of these Dreams
Anyone have any contact info where I can buy one
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Re: Dream Atemoya or Dream Cherimoya? Which is it?
« Reply #38 on: March 04, 2017, 07:32:46 AM »
I'd like to get one of these Dreams
Anyone have any contact info where I can buy one

If Wayne's email address hasn't changed, you can contact him here:
Wayne Clifton <katway@outlook.com>
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Re: Dream Atemoya or Dream Cherimoya? Which is it?
« Reply #39 on: March 04, 2017, 08:32:18 AM »
I'd like to get one of these Dreams
Anyone have any contact info where I can buy one
I should have some available in 1gal on cherimoya rootstock in about a month. They're pushing new growth now, gotta give them some time to heal.
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Re: Dream Atemoya or Dream Cherimoya? Which is it?
« Reply #40 on: March 05, 2017, 09:51:31 AM »
Looking forward to getting one or two from you Dom! Ram, Dom will hook you up! Also, I have reserved one from Wayne. He is a good guy and it was a pleasure to meet him. As far as I am concerned it is the Dream cherimoya😀
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Re: Dream Atemoya or Dream Cherimoya? Which is it?
« Reply #41 on: March 05, 2017, 10:29:43 AM »
I bought some from Dom last year. Theyre doing great.
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Re: Dream Atemoya or Dream Cherimoya? Which is it?
« Reply #42 on: March 06, 2017, 02:22:06 AM »
I'm interested in at least 1 Dom, I think I contacted you on Facebook to hold 1 for me when there ready
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Re: Dream Atemoya or Dream Cherimoya? Which is it?
« Reply #43 on: March 06, 2017, 02:25:46 AM »

Anyone want to discribe why this tree is a better one that some of the othrrs?
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Re: Dream Atemoya or Dream Cherimoya? Which is it?
« Reply #44 on: March 06, 2017, 09:38:40 AM »

Anyone want to discribe why this tree is a better one that some of the othrrs?
Wayne Clifton, the originator, has claimed it is the absolute best-tasting "cherimoya." Those that are growing it seem to share his enthusiasm about the flavor, but usually not making the claim of preeminence.
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Re: Dream Atemoya or Dream Cherimoya? Which is it?
« Reply #45 on: March 06, 2017, 07:17:48 PM »

Anyone want to discribe why this tree is a better one that some of the othrrs?

Best tasting Florida grown annona I have eaten although I haven't had all of them. It also sets without hand pollination and has great cold hardiness.
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Re: Dream Atemoya or Dream Cherimoya? Which is it?
« Reply #46 on: March 06, 2017, 11:20:18 PM »

Anyone want to discribe why this tree is a better one that some of the othrrs?


Best tasting Florida grown annona I have eaten although I haven't had all of them. It also sets without hand pollination and has great cold hardiness.


That's pretty much where I land on this one, though I'm skeptical of the claim that it has survived 19F. Wayne is awfully close to both the gulf and a river, AND has a bunch of ponds in his neighborhood. I'd love to get a date out of him for when that happened so I can pull some weather station data. Considering the record coldest temp in Bradenton, FL is 23F back in 1981,and the coldest in the last 20 years was 26F in 1997, well... Maybe I misunderstood, and he didn't mean his specific tree, but a friend's tree elsewhere had survived 19F.
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Re: Dream Atemoya or Dream Cherimoya? Which is it?
« Reply #47 on: March 07, 2017, 12:01:50 AM »
Last year I sent 2 emails to Wayne asking about the Dream atemoya for purchase and never got a response. Now
I finally understand why.

You understand a dork ignoring someone's ignorance with rude behavior? Sorry, I do not.

If ANYONE gets pissed at that innocent comment they need a shrink, AND they need to stay away from people and they CERTAINLY should not be in a business selling to or dealing with people.

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Re: Dream Atemoya or Dream Cherimoya? Which is it?
« Reply #48 on: March 07, 2017, 08:18:51 AM »
I wrote Wayne Clifton and he now has a limited number of Scions for sale $10 each and will have some small  trees  in a few months if anyone is intrested
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Re: Dream Atemoya or Dream Cherimoya? Which is it?
« Reply #49 on: March 07, 2017, 08:48:23 AM »
I'd like to get one of these Dreams
Anyone have any contact info where I can buy one
I should have some available in 1gal on cherimoya rootstock in about a month. They're pushing new growth now, gotta give them some time to heal.

I'm also interested in one if there are any left. I cruise though FM often on my way to family in Cape Coral.

 

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