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Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« Reply #575 on: May 30, 2014, 12:05:54 AM »
I am very amazed at just how fast these plants grow! Below are the pictures comparing  January to March and the growth in just 2 months!


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Would that burlap material work over treated wood?

I've been contemplating using treated posts but then nail rough ceder over it. Termites are ruthless. Dont get me started. I even had them set up on a wooden shelf I built ont eh patio, and I discovered then when they entered a big pile of DF cuttings thru their cut ends and ate out the insides.  :'(

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Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« Reply #576 on: May 30, 2014, 12:09:44 AM »
Oh Marin I am sorry to hear about the accident!

I agree telling the difference between cultivars is difficult and I honestly have no clue where to start. Speaking of ID-ing DF cultivars my brother recently brought home some cuttings from a friends neighbor without any info about the DF. I have provided pics of the new cuttings next to the currently growing cuttings we gathered from the wild DF in Boca Raton. The noticeable difference is that the new cuttings are dark green, have 7 spines, and are thicker. Any help with cultivar ID is much appreciated.

New cutting on left in dark green.


Seven spines on new cutting.


Only four spines on wild boca raton find.



Looks like Sword Pear. My front yard is like a forest of the stuff. FL native. Stout, freestanding erect 'monstrosity' version of DF. Havent tried growing them on top of each other yet... Fruits can fill one hand, orange-red on inside, red on outside, much larger seeds than even Peruvian Apple Cactus. Really cool landscaping feature. Likes to get twisted all into stands of Palmettos.

I feel this species is way under-recognized / under-utilized. Grows like monsters here in FL. Strikingly similar to dragon fruit in appearance and such. Should be able to make some interesting grafting opportunities probably ideally as DF rootstock, but haven't gotten that far with experimenting with it yet...
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Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« Reply #577 on: May 30, 2014, 12:13:16 AM »
Paul Thomson's hybrids:
- Halley's Comet
- Physical Graffiti (fastest growing)
- Delight
- S8 (Voodoo Child, Arizona Purple)

Does that mean Voodoo & AZ Purple are the same thing (S8)?

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Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« Reply #578 on: May 30, 2014, 12:28:38 AM »
Oh Marin I am sorry to hear about the accident!

I agree telling the difference between cultivars is difficult and I honestly have no clue where to start. Speaking of ID-ing DF cultivars my brother recently brought home some cuttings from a friends neighbor without any info about the DF. I have provided pics of the new cuttings next to the currently growing cuttings we gathered from the wild DF in Boca Raton. The noticeable difference is that the new cuttings are dark green, have 7 spines, and are thicker. Any help with cultivar ID is much appreciated.

New cutting on left in dark green.


Seven spines on new cutting.


Only four spines on wild boca raton find.



Looks like Sword Pear. My front yard is like a forest of the stuff. FL native. Stout, freestanding erect 'monstrosity' version of DF. Havent tried growing them on top of each other yet... Fruits can fill one hand, orange-red on inside, red on outside, much larger seeds than even Peruvian Apple Cactus. Flowers much smaller but kind of cooler looking. Really cool landscaping feature. Likes to get twisted all into stands of Palmettos.

I feel this species is way under-recognized / under-utilized. Grows like monsters here in FL. Strikingly similar to dragon fruit in appearance and such. Should be able to make some interesting grafting opportunities probably ideally as DF rootstock, but haven't gotten that far with experimenting with it yet...
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Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« Reply #579 on: May 30, 2014, 07:03:54 AM »

Would that burlap material work over treated wood?


All my trellises are made of pressure treated pine with burlap wrapped around the vertical post.

Dark Star this morning.


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Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« Reply #580 on: May 31, 2014, 10:48:57 PM »
my reaction:
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Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« Reply #581 on: May 31, 2014, 11:14:40 PM »

Would that burlap material work over treated wood?


All my trellises are made of pressure treated pine with burlap wrapped around the vertical post.

Dark Star this morning.


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Wow those flowers are of beauty & smell so good at night, sometime I cant wait for my fruit to develop & steam the unopened young flower bud with steam pompano in a balsamic demi-glaze, delicious beside the fruit.
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Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« Reply #582 on: June 02, 2014, 04:32:00 PM »
I am new here and i need some help. I plan to use a 6 feet post and use a big pot. The fear i have is of the post  falling. Which is the best metod to hold the post in place against weight or weather(we got lots of hurricanes here in puerto rico). I dont think the dirt i use will be enough.

Ill am thinking of using a concrete block.
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Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« Reply #583 on: June 13, 2014, 11:02:50 AM »
I am curious about using a tree stump.  I have an almond tree and a coconut tree that were cut off at 5-6 feet tall.  The plan is to run the DF vines up the stumps, but I am concerned that the tree stumps, especially the coconut will rot away and just when the vines get growing, and are heavy.  Should I abandon this notion, and cut down the stumps and just use PT lumber?
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Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« Reply #584 on: June 13, 2014, 11:05:01 AM »
btw, for those who i promised cuttings to, i haven't forgetten about you.  I will mail them out soon.
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Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« Reply #585 on: June 13, 2014, 11:15:44 AM »
I am new here and i need some help. I plan to use a 6 feet post and use a big pot. The fear i have is of the post  falling. Which is the best metod to hold the post in place against weight or weather(we got lots of hurricanes here in puerto rico). I dont think the dirt i use will be enough.

Ill am thinking of using a concrete block.


Hey Dante, made this out of 18" 1x4s with a 15 gal pot inside. The uprights are 2x2s:




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Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« Reply #586 on: June 13, 2014, 01:39:13 PM »
Bought a couple fruit from an Asian market in Orlando. Always a gamble cutting them open, and I was disappointed to see white inside. Whatever variety they were, they were completely bland/flavorless. Like a kiwi with no taste. I think we threw away half of the second one this morning as it wasn't't worth the effort.

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Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« Reply #587 on: June 13, 2014, 02:12:32 PM »
Does your market have red fleshed fruits at all? If they do and dump them in the same pile, then you should look for the orange-skinned ones. The pink ones will be white. The markets near me have only white ones so I don't bother. After weeks of transport from Asia the fruit wouldhave used up what little sugar it had to begin with. Many white varieties do have some sugar when eaten off the vine. Unlike traditional fruits, they sugar down if you leave them for a while.

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Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« Reply #588 on: June 13, 2014, 03:39:54 PM »
I think we threw away half of the second one this morning as it wasn't't worth the effort.

How much effort is there in preparing Dragon fruit, slice it in half & scoop it out with a spoon. ;D
More effort than eating grapes, less than peeling & eating a banana.

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Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« Reply #589 on: June 13, 2014, 03:54:37 PM »
more like... wasn't worth the caloric intake for eating something with no flavor. It was as bland as bland can be and nobody was really interested in eating it.

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Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« Reply #590 on: June 13, 2014, 08:15:30 PM »
yeah those vietnamese jaina DFs give the fruit a bad rep
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Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« Reply #591 on: June 13, 2014, 09:57:33 PM »
My 'Physical Graffiti' stopped growing during the winter and well into the spring. I started watering it everyday, and it has finally pushed for new growth. However, the entire plant looks unhealthy, as it is light green and has light brown spots. What should I do?

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Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« Reply #592 on: June 13, 2014, 10:07:21 PM »
yeah those vietnamese jaina DFs give the fruit a bad rep

Apparently you have not tasted good white fleshed DF or don't like DF.

When I vacationed in Vietnam, Dragon Fruit was available at every hotel for breakfast. My wife and I ate it every morning and liked it.

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Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« Reply #593 on: June 15, 2014, 01:23:04 AM »
Paul Thomson's hybrids:
- Halley's Comet
- Physical Graffiti (fastest growing)
- Delight
- S8 (Voodoo Child, Arizona Purple)

Does that mean Voodoo & AZ Purple are the same thing (S8)?
There were some confusion about that but forum members with experience said they're different. I only have AZ purple.

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Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« Reply #594 on: June 15, 2014, 01:54:38 AM »
Paul Thomson's hybrids:
- Halley's Comet
- Physical Graffiti (fastest growing)
- Delight
- S8 (Voodoo Child, Arizona Purple)

Does that mean Voodoo & AZ Purple are the same thing (S8)?
There were some confusion about that but forum members with experience said they're different. I only have AZ purple.
Adding to the confusion....Is voodoo child the same as American beauty and is home depot red DFvoodoo child?

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Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« Reply #595 on: June 15, 2014, 02:10:43 AM »
american beauty is much larger than voodoo child
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Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« Reply #596 on: June 15, 2014, 07:26:38 AM »
My 'Physical Graffiti' stopped growing during the winter and well into the spring. I started watering it everyday, and it has finally pushed for new growth. However, the entire plant looks unhealthy, as it is light green and has light brown spots. What should I do?

You can apply vigor boosters such as Atonik, Chitosan and/or Brassinolide.

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Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« Reply #597 on: June 15, 2014, 10:00:32 AM »
Dragonfruit responds well to fertilizers. They grow really well when it warms up and they also like a lot of water. My vines turn slightly yellowish in winter and get their color back when it warms up.

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Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« Reply #598 on: June 15, 2014, 12:30:23 PM »
Adding to the confusion....Is voodoo child the same as American beauty and is home depot red DFvoodoo child?


La Verne Nursery's "Red" (Home Depot and Lowe's) was one of the first Dragon Fruit I bought.

This year I already have 14 flower buds on my 4 year old plant and 6 flowers have opened in the last couple of days.



La Verne "Red" is Not self-fertile.

IMO, the plant and fruit resemble the named Dragon Fruit variety "Armando".

At the last Pitahaya Festival, there was talk that the Voodoo Child is close to S-8 "Sugar Dragon", but not the exact same plant.
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Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« Reply #599 on: June 15, 2014, 01:13:00 PM »
Adding to the confusion....Is voodoo child the same as American beauty and is home depot red DFvoodoo child?

La Verne Nursery's "Red" (Home Depot and Lowe's) was one of the first Dragon Fruit I bought.

This year I already have 14 flower buds on my 4 year old plant and 6 flowers have opened in the last couple of days.

La Verne "Red" is Not self-fertile.

IMO, the plant and fruit resemble the named Dragon Fruit variety "Armando".

At the last Pitahaya Festival, there was talk that the Voodoo Child is close to S-8 "Sugar Dragon", but not the exact same plant.

Hey Rickshaw, I think it was you who talked me into returning the La Verne red, appreciate it :) I ended up buying Haley's Comet and American Beauty. I have a couple cuttings of Haley if you or anyone in LA wants them.

 

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