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can someone recognise that jackfruit?
« on: July 28, 2012, 02:38:16 PM »
Here is an Jackfruit originated from Thailand:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Smaller-Variety-JACKFRUIT-Organic-Tropical-Fruit-Tree-/280927474199?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4168951217

don't know if the photos and description in that listing are sufficient for an educated guess
the mother tree is a seedling brought from Thailand by the seller
As he told me the fruits produced by the seedling resembled the original fruit
he tasted in Thailand
The tree itself is smaller than average jackfruit
Can someone make a guess regarding that cultivar, or cultivar that looks like it?
it seems that the spikes are flattening upon maturing as the fruit becoming yellow
if not mistaken a fruit from that tree produce approximately 80 seeds
the seeds are bit smaller than usual
flesh is yellow and firm.
if a specific information is needed I can ask that chap




 

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Re: can someone recognise that jackfruit?
« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2012, 06:59:47 PM »
amaqeq, thailand has many similar jackfruit with thick yellow, crisp flesh and that standard shape with fruit of modest size.Most are not named or get their name changed pretty randomly when coming to other countries.It is a good one alright and typical of the best you'd buy in Bangkok.It looks almost identical to those you see in Isaan province and laos near the mekong.

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Re: can someone recognise that jackfruit?
« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2012, 09:31:10 PM »
Jackfruit do not "come true" from seed. You may end up with a soft flesh fruit or something else.  Good luck!

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Re: can someone recognise that jackfruit?
« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2012, 09:48:16 PM »
Jackfruit do not "come true" from seed. You may end up with a soft flesh fruit or something else.  Good luck!

Berto is right. If you have access to grafted jackfruit trees that would be a much better option.
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Re: can someone recognise that jackfruit?
« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2012, 10:37:50 PM »
Thanks Mike
it is very amusing and pleasing to know that good fruits at their origin may remain nameless
when thinking about it the same is happening here as well with local trees like
figs for example
when my father started farming he went and collected local fig trees and made
hundreds of cuttings from different regions
few of those trees are still growing around the house, they bear excellent tasting fruits
have no Stem Borer issues and have only local nickname
actually guavas that were imported here stayed mostly nameless
except the bendov cultivar (and probably other one or two)they are sold by the fruit characteristic: red, white, purple, dwarf, seedless
so that jackfruit type is spread in a big area and is regarded as good one at Bangkok
that is about what I wanted to know

I'm not intending to buy that one or the other air layered ones he made
But rather was curious to know something about it as most of the fruits and trees
described are bigger and the flesh is described mostly as soft

He did sent me seeds month or two ago, the seeds were also smaller than usual
Berto, fruitlovers thank you for the advice, if I could I probably would.

 







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Re: can someone recognise that jackfruit?
« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2012, 10:50:47 PM »
amaqeq,generally the crisper fleshed types are more desirable than sloppies,low latex,high flesh content (low rag and edible),thick flesh wall and small seeds are other good traitsSmall fruit are more manageable so this can be a desirable trait as well.Flavor of course is the primary characteristic that shoul be evaluated.Oh yeah orange flesh is usually better than yellow or at least many of the best have crisp, orange flesh.

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Re: can someone recognise that jackfruit?
« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2012, 10:54:34 PM »
I should also say that getting all of the best traits in one fruit or variety is next to impossible.Many have a combination of all the worst characteristics and that is easy.

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Re: can someone recognise that jackfruit?
« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2012, 10:07:54 AM »

Orange Red Meat Jackfruit

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Re: can someone recognise that jackfruit?
« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2012, 10:19:20 AM »
Wonderful
Do you call it nangka merah ?
is it hybrid?

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Re: can someone recognise that jackfruit?
« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2012, 09:01:39 PM »

 Hmm..I just call it nangka, but sometimes people here call it nangka merah.
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Re: can someone recognise that jackfruit?
« Reply #10 on: September 28, 2012, 10:14:25 PM »
Nangka merah, jackfruit red.....mmmmmm.It doesn't look like a hybrid to me.

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Re: can someone recognise that jackfruit?
« Reply #11 on: September 28, 2012, 10:39:14 PM »
Nangka merah, jackfruit red.....mmmmmm.It doesn't look like a hybrid to me.
For me...it is a variety not a hybrid.
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Re: can someone recognise that jackfruit?
« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2012, 06:13:28 AM »
You are right Mike Nangkadak is how the croses are usually named
let me explain the question again, bit more clearly
As it is not so mmmself explanatory, at least so is the case for me.
Under the term Nangka merah I have seen few types of Malaysian jackfruit
None of them showed that type of cubic short arils.
Calling the arils in the photo nangka merah meant as a friendly gesture
The real question was: is it a cross
That question was answered by tropical66
But left me curios not so much for the color, but for the shape
Those arils looks like they came from round small fruit rather than oblong large one
For me as an complete Illiterate with those fruits it remind the arils from Artocarpus rigidus, Was not aware that Jackfruit arils can come at those shapes.
 

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Re: can someone recognise that jackfruit?
« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2012, 06:33:32 AM »
amaqeq, jackfruit vary alot in the shape of the bulbs between varieties and even in a single fruit.Small seeded,crisp fleshed types with large bulbs routinely have the blocky shape.Soft fleshed ones with large seeds are more likely to have smooth bulbs.The squarish shape is what many of the good types have.If anything it makes them look further removed from chempadak and other large fruited artocarpus. 

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Re: can someone recognise that jackfruit?
« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2012, 10:00:46 AM »
Interesting article:
http://dulichmoisinh.blogspot.co.il/2012/01/mit.html

Photo from the article :


Google Translation:
jack red flesh hybrid code (changai) Mit Thai Changai is a meeting of foreign varieties introduced to Vietnam by way of laptops, are grown in the southern provinces for several years, but with several advantages such as quick harvest time , high yield, berry citrus sweet and crunchy, especially plants suitable for hilly areas, the jackfruit tree chanrai are many farmers and growers in the north looking to buy
Is the same meetings appear after the type of jack farmers planting ago as meeting high-tech products, MI99, meeting table, .... Mit charai have developed very fast and have more farmers get rich quick because prices are higher and more stable in recent years. If keeping current price, high economic efficiency than traditional crops mango, longan, pomelo, and durian tree is regarded as the highest value in the last few years. Processing plants jackfruit as Vinamit and similar establishments are thriving and stable purchasing, make sure jackfruit growing areas will be expanded and enriched the farmers from jackfruit tree will be more than

Mike, thank you for your knowledge sharing and willing to lend a hand
The translation above may be misleading
with such sentences:"foreign varieties introduced to Vietnam by way of laptops"
Since English searches always bringing me back to black gold golden nugget and cheena
Reading other languages Google is capable of translating, is inevitable.

 

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