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Re: Seeking info on M-4 mango
« Reply #50 on: May 29, 2017, 02:11:51 PM »
What is the growth habit of m4?

As stated in this and other posts, it was just released less than 6 months ago and no grafted trees were in existence prior to observe.
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Re: Seeking info on M-4 mango
« Reply #51 on: May 29, 2017, 02:16:36 PM »
What is the growth habit of m4?

As stated in this and other posts, it was just released less than 6 months ago and no grafted trees were in existence prior to observe.

I have read. Was wondering if the growth habit of m4 mother tree is similar to LZ?

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Re: Seeking info on M-4 mango
« Reply #52 on: May 29, 2017, 06:28:25 PM »
No.  Normal, spreading canopy, medium, or less, vigor.  This does not mean that it will necessarily be like that grafted onto Turpentine.
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Re: Seeking info on M-4 mango
« Reply #53 on: May 29, 2017, 08:27:00 PM »
No.  Normal, spreading canopy, medium, or less, vigor.  This does not mean that it will necessarily be like that grafted onto Turpentine.

Exactly,  which is why I tend not to describe the growth habit of any if the mother seedling trees (seedling being the key word).
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Re: Seeking info on M-4 mango
« Reply #54 on: May 31, 2017, 08:54:20 AM »
I saw a mango labeled e8 for sale at a local nursery recently

Didn't know what it was and passed

Should I have bought it

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Re: Seeking info on M-4 mango
« Reply #55 on: May 31, 2017, 08:59:56 AM »
I never heard of E-8.
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Re: Seeking info on M-4 mango
« Reply #56 on: May 31, 2017, 09:37:07 AM »
I saw a mango labeled e8 for sale at a local nursery recently

Didn't know what it was and passed

Should I have bought it

Never heard of E8 either.  What did the tag look like?
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Re: Seeking info on M-4 mango
« Reply #57 on: May 31, 2017, 09:49:43 AM »
If you haven't heard it must be a miss label

There were a few that I didn't know

One was labeled corn and a couple others that I was clueless about

Bought an Edgar and called it a day

Yellow tag just returned from zills
 






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Re: Seeking info on M-4 mango
« Reply #58 on: May 31, 2017, 03:02:23 PM »
I saw an E-8 Sabre mango the other day as well. The nursery owner, who gets all his mangoes from Zill did not know anything about it, either did the woman who answered from ZHPP. The yellow tag said E-8 Sabre. I looked on the Internet and the only info I could find was a seller on eBay with this variety and pictures of it too.

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Re: Seeking info on M-4 mango
« Reply #59 on: May 31, 2017, 09:23:47 PM »
Saber is a rootstock.
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Re: Seeking info on M-4 mango
« Reply #60 on: June 01, 2017, 10:01:32 PM »
People can say they were told its "Keitt-like" and want to believe it (when never tasted it).  I have said it has a coconut flavor (and have tasted it multiple years and kmow what I, and others who tasted it with me tasted)...and look at what is stated on ZHPP's mango list...

Here is a suggestion,  take it for what you want, please refrain from calling and asking them questions and informative on specific mangoes.  You can get much information on this site from those familiar with the varieties.  They are a whole sale nursery.  They do not want to be a retail nursery and I know for a fact that Gary and all others who work in the office have stated they are tired of fielding calls for information.



« Last Edit: June 01, 2017, 11:19:52 PM by bsbullie »
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Re: Seeking info on M-4 mango
« Reply #61 on: June 01, 2017, 10:09:46 PM »
Thank you.
« Last Edit: June 02, 2017, 09:44:15 AM by Guanabanus »
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Re: Seeking info on M-4 mango
« Reply #62 on: June 02, 2017, 12:27:48 AM »
Lol, look at their spelling of Mahachanok.

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Re: Seeking info on M-4 mango
« Reply #63 on: June 02, 2017, 06:26:06 AM »
Lol, look at their spelling of Mahachanok.

Maybe thats confidential too?
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Re: Seeking info on M-4 mango
« Reply #64 on: July 15, 2017, 06:09:44 PM »
  Is M-4 as susceptible to anthracnose as Coconut Cream or more like Keitt?
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I am an American from California with a small farm in Southern Brazil. 
Sou americano na Califórnia e tenho um sítio em Brusque, SC.

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Re: Seeking info on M-4 mango
« Reply #65 on: July 15, 2017, 10:14:45 PM »
  Is M-4 as susceptible to anthracnose as Coconut Cream or more like Keitt?

I dont see Coconut Cream being susceptible to anthracnose.   I have been growing it in West Boynton Beach since 2011 and no anthracnose issues.

As has been repeated, M4 is a new release and no grafted trees have been observed.  A mother seedling tree is not a good overall guide to what a grafted tree will do.
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Re: Seeking info on M-4 mango
« Reply #66 on: July 15, 2017, 11:38:09 PM »
  Is M-4 as susceptible to anthracnose as Coconut Cream or more like Keitt?

I dont see Coconut Cream being susceptible to anthracnose.   I have been growing it in West Boynton Beach since 2011 and no anthracnose issues.

As has been repeated, M4 is a new release and no grafted trees have been observed.  A mother seedling tree is not a good overall guide to what a grafted tree will do.
So that means you have the mother seedling tree since no grafted trees have been observed.
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Re: Seeking info on M-4 mango
« Reply #67 on: July 15, 2017, 11:39:31 PM »
  Is M-4 as susceptible to anthracnose as Coconut Cream or more like Keitt?

I dont see Coconut Cream being susceptible to anthracnose.   I have been growing it in West Boynton Beach since 2011 and no anthracnose issues.

As has been repeated, M4 is a new release and no grafted trees have been observed.  A mother seedling tree is not a good overall guide to what a grafted tree will do.
So that means you have the mother seedling tree since no grafted trees have been observed.

What would make you say that?
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Re: Seeking info on M-4 mango
« Reply #68 on: June 26, 2018, 07:01:46 PM »
Now it's been a year.  Any comments on how the grafted M4 is doing, growth habit, flavor, anything else?

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Re: Seeking info on M-4 mango
« Reply #69 on: June 26, 2018, 11:53:51 PM »
Mango trees grow much slower in SoCal compared to south Florida...but M-4 is ridiculously sad on turpentine rootstock.   Zero growth in 1 year... Not even 1 bud.  I saw my friends trees as well and they were the same or worse (dead from dieback).
I recall hearing that M-4 is no longer propagated by Zills HPP.  So I guess our next goal is to see how M-4 does on Manila rootstock.
« Last Edit: June 26, 2018, 11:55:52 PM by wslau »
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Re: Seeking info on M-4 mango
« Reply #70 on: June 27, 2018, 07:07:43 AM »
This is incorrect. It is on the latest zhpp availability. My M4 is growing similarly to the other varieties I planted at the same time. I have one mango on the tree, yellow but rock hard.

I recall hearing that M-4 is no longer propagated by Zills HPP.
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Re: Seeking info on M-4 mango
« Reply #71 on: June 27, 2018, 08:44:22 AM »
You Californians, you've got to get your mango trees on the right rootstock!
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Re: Seeking info on M-4 mango
« Reply #72 on: June 27, 2018, 10:33:05 AM »
Mango trees grow much slower in SoCal compared to south Florida...but M-4 is ridiculously sad on turpentine rootstock.   Zero growth in 1 year... Not even 1 bud.  I saw my friends trees as well and they were the same or worse (dead from dieback).
I recall hearing that M-4 is no longer propagated by Zills HPP.  So I guess our next goal is to see how M-4 does on Manila rootstock.

waren, I had issues with my M4 too, it keeps blooming all the time. I have a graft on ataulfo that did well and has 12 fruitlets, I may not let it hold more than 2 so I can taste them. M4 in ground was a thud on florida rootstock. I gave it a hack job recently when I harvested couple scions and removed blooms, now its pushing growth on all cylinders. try to up the water intake on it. I am planning to inarch it later this year.

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Re: Seeking info on M-4 mango
« Reply #73 on: July 01, 2018, 09:36:58 AM »
My M-4 in ground is doing well. It is not as fast a grower as my other mango and it seems to have a tendency to being slightly leggy but not as bad as a Keitt.

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Re: Seeking info on M-4 mango
« Reply #74 on: July 17, 2018, 05:13:12 PM »
So should any dooryarder who was thinking about planting a Coco Cream scratch it off the list for the sake of M-4 instead? 
Blessed be the man who plants a tree knowing he will never live to enjoy it's fruit or shade.

 

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