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Mangosteen seeds germination help
« on: July 23, 2017, 04:53:53 AM »
I have bought some mangosteen in an asian store and I want to try germinating seeds, but mangosteens were stored in a refrigerator when i bought them. All mangosteens are like fresh and not rotten: from this I deduce they have not been in the refrigerator for so long.
Do you think I will be successful germinating seeds? Which is the best method?
I have never had any success germinating them before btw :(

« Last Edit: July 23, 2017, 06:17:24 AM by Siyu98 »

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Re: Mangosteen seeds germination help
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2017, 10:07:33 PM »
If the Mangosteens are imported from Thailand then the seeds are dead since they irradiate the fruit to kill any pests that might spread, I got some seeds from Puerto Rico that are starting to germinate

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Re: Mangosteen seeds germination help
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2017, 11:07:22 PM »
They're not exactly "fresh off the tree" fresh but those are the best looking mangosteens I've ever seen sold in a supermarket. Generally the odds of being able to germinate store bought imported mangosteen are not good. I don't know whether it's because of long-term refrigeration (the seeds inside the fruit are quite vulnerable) or whether it's the irradiation all imported fruit go through. Still, I've had success germinating store-bought lychees that were imported, and surely that goes through everything that mangosteen goes through.

I'd say your chances of being able to grow any plants from those mangosteens are not good, but I do think you have a chance, if you're willing to go to the trouble knowing you will most likely meet in failure.

Another issue, I'm not sure about it, I think the mangosteens for export might be picked just a little underripe to prolong shelf life. Unfortunately that means the seeds are not all the way fully formed and are not as big as they would have been later, so this could be a factor. (I'm really not sure)

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Re: Mangosteen seeds germination help
« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2017, 07:10:18 AM »
Ok thanks, but seeds seem enough developed

I wrapped them in a moist paper towel. What is the best way to germinate them?
All the seeds that I planted directly in the soil have become rotten. Why?

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Re: Mangosteen seeds germination help
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2017, 02:00:32 PM »
They don't seem to like to much moisture for germination.
I would try to germinate them in moist vermiculite, and if ny signs of germination were seen, then transplant it to a pot with a well drained substract.
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Re: Mangosteen seeds germination help
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2017, 02:28:25 PM »
I planted several seeds from store bought mangosteen one month ago, placed them in a plastic bag with moist soil, and put them in a place they wouldn't get too cold at night. None of them germinated. I just checked on it right now.

On the other hand, I didn't have any problem germinating seeds that were not from supermarket bought fruit, so I can tell you mangosteen isn't that hard to germinate. I'm pretty sure it probably has to with freshness. Also make sure to use distilled water because the water coming out from your faucet may have too much chlorine and mangosteen seedlings are sensitive.

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Re: Mangosteen seeds germination help
« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2017, 10:53:44 AM »
So do you think moist paper towel method is good to germinate these seeds?
« Last Edit: July 25, 2017, 10:55:15 AM by Siyu98 »

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Re: Mangosteen seeds germination help
« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2017, 06:01:10 PM »
Update?

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Re: Mangosteen seeds germination help
« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2017, 09:47:05 PM »
I put some from my own trees in coconut peat with little humedity and they took like 2 weeks to sprout.... Inside a zip log bag...
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Re: Mangosteen seeds germination help
« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2017, 10:27:15 PM »
I put mine between damped paper towel, inside a zip lock bag. I zipped the bag 3/4 of the way. 4 seed seems to sprout after 2-3 weeks.

Do you fully zipped the bag?

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Re: Mangosteen seeds germination help
« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2017, 10:41:00 PM »
Purple mangosteen seeds sprouting



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Re: Mangosteen seeds germination help
« Reply #11 on: August 18, 2017, 10:07:58 AM »
I put mine between damped paper towel, inside a zip lock bag. I zipped the bag 3/4 of the way. 4 seed seems to sprout after 2-3 weeks.

Do you fully zipped the bag?
Yes I fully zipped the bag, didn't want humedity to scape
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Re: Mangosteen seeds germination help
« Reply #12 on: August 18, 2017, 01:18:55 PM »
I put some from my own trees in coconut peat with little humedity and they took like 2 weeks to sprout.... Inside a zip log bag...

I used the same method for the market bought(Imported) mangosteen seeds and one of the two germinated.
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Re: Mangosteen seeds germination help
« Reply #13 on: August 18, 2017, 05:08:12 PM »
These are seeds that I directly planted


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Re: Mangosteen seeds germination help
« Reply #14 on: August 18, 2017, 05:12:35 PM »
Mangosteen roots are pretty poor. Are you air pruning their roots?

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Re: Mangosteen seeds germination help
« Reply #15 on: August 21, 2017, 06:22:04 PM »
Thanks Seanny,Schutzhund for your seedling photo!
Actually those seeds became rotten, but I have some other fresh seeds bought from ebay sellers waiting to germinate
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Re: Mangosteen seeds germination help
« Reply #16 on: September 03, 2017, 05:22:26 PM »
No germination for me. I need to go to local store to buy more Mexican mangosteen. Yours?

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Re: Mangosteen seeds germination help
« Reply #17 on: September 05, 2017, 04:47:55 PM »
No germination also for me. I have planted many mangosteen seeds but no one has ever germinated...
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Re: Mangosteen seeds germination help
« Reply #18 on: September 05, 2017, 05:53:37 PM »
My seeds still look fresh. Seems to take a long time. Still waiting.

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Re: Mangosteen seeds germination help
« Reply #19 on: September 06, 2017, 01:33:18 AM »
Once you've germinated them, they'll grow much faster with an LED grow light, inside a small enclosure to hold the humidity.

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Re: Mangosteen seeds germination help
« Reply #20 on: September 06, 2017, 01:42:17 AM »
They're not exactly "fresh off the tree" fresh but those are the best looking mangosteens I've ever seen sold in a supermarket. Generally the odds of being able to germinate store bought imported mangosteen are not good. I don't know whether it's because of long-term refrigeration (the seeds inside the fruit are quite vulnerable) or whether it's the irradiation all imported fruit go through. Still, I've had success germinating store-bought lychees that were imported, and surely that goes through everything that mangosteen goes through.

I'd say your chances of being able to grow any plants from those mangosteens are not good, but I do think you have a chance, if you're willing to go to the trouble knowing you will most likely meet in failure.

Another issue, I'm not sure about it, I think the mangosteens for export might be picked just a little underripe to prolong shelf life. Unfortunately that means the seeds are not all the way fully formed and are not as big as they would have been later, so this could be a factor. (I'm really not sure)
It's the irradiation, not the refrigeration that makes the seeds sterile. Depending on dose of irradiation sometimes some seeds can survive.
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Re: Mangosteen seeds germination help
« Reply #21 on: September 06, 2017, 03:21:02 AM »
It's the irradiation, not the refrigeration that makes the seeds sterile. Depending on dose of irradiation sometimes some seeds can survive.
Mangosteen seeds are not like regular seeds, technically they are actually adventitious embryos, which was why I thought they might be more sensitive to long-term refrigeration.

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Re: Mangosteen seeds germination help
« Reply #22 on: September 06, 2017, 06:58:26 AM »
It's the irradiation, not the refrigeration that makes the seeds sterile. Depending on dose of irradiation sometimes some seeds can survive.
Mangosteen seeds are not like regular seeds, technically they are actually adventitious embryos, which was why I thought they might be more sensitive to long-term refrigeration.
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Depends on what you mean by long term? Months yes, weeks no. Transportation is in the order of weeks.
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Re: Mangosteen seeds germination help
« Reply #23 on: September 07, 2017, 10:29:30 AM »



Bought seeds on eBay was suppose to be Mangosteen, but the Seedlings does not look like it, Can anyone identify this seedling , planning to pull them out ..

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Re: Mangosteen seeds germination help
« Reply #24 on: September 07, 2017, 01:01:24 PM »



Bought seeds on eBay was suppose to be Mangosteen, but the Seedlings does not look like it, Can anyone identify this seedling , planning to pull them out ..

Thanks Ed

For real?? Looks like Annona squamosa to me.
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Re: Mangosteen seeds germination help
« Reply #25 on: September 07, 2017, 01:16:27 PM »
Is it a keeper or pull it out ?

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Re: Mangosteen seeds germination help
« Reply #26 on: September 07, 2017, 03:07:18 PM »
Quick update on one of  my seedlings, this one is growing really well and pushing out new growth


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Re: Mangosteen seeds germination help
« Reply #27 on: September 07, 2017, 04:15:01 PM »
Is it a keeper or pull it out ?

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Re: Mangosteen seeds germination help
« Reply #28 on: September 07, 2017, 08:59:46 PM »
Is it a keeper or pull it out ?

ThanksvEd
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The biggest seedling and he one in left lower corner are definitely annona squamosa. Very far from being a mangosteen  :D
That said, sugar apple is a delicious fruit, i would keep it
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Re: Mangosteen seeds germination help
« Reply #29 on: October 19, 2017, 10:14:18 PM »
After 10 weeks 3 seedling emerge.




I thought the seeds were bad so I bought more seeds.  :-[

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Re: Mangosteen seeds germination help
« Reply #30 on: October 20, 2017, 05:52:40 AM »
Thai seeds germinated after 10 days, 100% germination. Bought the fruit in Thailand from a street seller. So it must be the irradiation.

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Re: Mangosteen seeds germination help
« Reply #31 on: June 16, 2018, 04:22:04 AM »
Hey guys! FINALLY I was able to find an Asian Market that had fresh non-irradiated mangosteens here! Seeds are also starting to sprout. Can't wait to see them growing into plants!




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« Reply #32 on: June 17, 2018, 12:26:10 PM »
Inspiring guys. Thanks!
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Re: Mangosteen seeds germination help
« Reply #33 on: September 11, 2018, 04:15:14 AM »
Finally a little mangosteen plant with 4 leaves!



Hope it will grow well

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Re: Mangosteen seeds germination help
« Reply #34 on: September 12, 2018, 09:14:24 AM »
They're not exactly "fresh off the tree" fresh but those are the best looking mangosteens I've ever seen sold in a supermarket. Generally the odds of being able to germinate store bought imported mangosteen are not good. I don't know whether it's because of long-term refrigeration (the seeds inside the fruit are quite vulnerable) or whether it's the irradiation all imported fruit go through. Still, I've had success germinating store-bought lychees that were imported, and surely that goes through everything that mangosteen goes through.

I'd say your chances of being able to grow any plants from those mangosteens are not good, but I do think you have a chance, if you're willing to go to the trouble knowing you will most likely meet in failure.

Another issue, I'm not sure about it, I think the mangosteens for export might be picked just a little underripe to prolong shelf life. Unfortunately that means the seeds are not all the way fully formed and are not as big as they would have been later, so this could be a factor. (I'm really not sure)
It's the irradiation, not the refrigeration that makes the seeds sterile. Depending on dose of irradiation sometimes some seeds can survive.

What he /\ said, the seeds are likely dead from the irradiation. 

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Re: Mangosteen seeds germination help
« Reply #35 on: September 12, 2018, 10:49:15 PM »
Definitely not mangosteen. Yes looks like some type of annona. I guess it could have been worst and they could have sent you lentil seeds.  :D, like someone just posted about receiving from Amazon.
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Re: Mangosteen seeds germination help
« Reply #36 on: September 13, 2018, 06:38:12 AM »
Definitely not mangosteen. Yes looks like some type of annona. I guess it could have been worst and they could have sent you lentil seeds.  :D, like someone just posted about receiving from Amazon.
Uhh, that was me lol. I did get a refund as an update.

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Re: Mangosteen seeds germination help
« Reply #37 on: September 13, 2018, 07:28:32 AM »
Finally a little mangosteen plant with 4 leaves!



Hope it will grow well

Looking very  fine, keep it warm and wet and don't overwater
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Re: Mangosteen seeds germination help
« Reply #38 on: September 13, 2018, 07:45:28 PM »
Here are my seedlings photographed at 6 weeks from planting seed and again at 7 months






 

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