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A few years ago I visited my future wife's family in the rural parts of Thailand's North east region called 'Isan'. (pronounced E-san) It was here I was gifted a very special fruit. I was handed a purple sugar apple that made the rest of the family jealous.  I ate and enjoyed the fruit and slipped some seeds into my back pocket. Long story short, a few trees ended up growing and got the first fruits in 2.5 years in Ft Myers, FL. There was one tree from all the seedlings that made about 6 fruits that 1st fruiting year with no pollination. This year (3.5yrs old from seed) the tree set 50 fruits with only hand pollination on 2 occasions 2 weeks apart.

The tree was selected and exhibits high productivity, excellent chewy dark purple/red skin, inside has white meaty flesh with a raspberry juice flavor, relative low seed count, it is an 'easy peel' sugar apple.

Background on sugar apple types:
In Thai they characterize the type of sugar apples into two categories: 'nang' or 'fai'. The 'nang' type is an easy peel chewy type when ripe. The 'fai' type is a type that is more of a sugary mush and much less desirable grainy texture. The 'Isan Indigo' is a 'nang' type along with the green 'Na Dai' Vietnamese types.  As far as I know all known RED SUGAR Apples types in cultivation are the 'fai' mushy type.


I will use this thread to share results of testing and other pertinent information for this new variety. Grafted trees will be available in the future. A limited amount of seed is available through our website due to demand. https://greenplanetfarm.com/products/thai-purple-chewy-sugar-apple-seeds-a-squamosa-isan-indigo








« Last Edit: September 22, 2017, 03:17:52 PM by palmtreeluke »
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Re: Birth of a new Chewy Purple Sugar Apple- A. squamosa 'Isan Indigo'
« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2017, 12:53:47 PM »
I can confirm that this is a very chewy dark red/purple sugar apple and as far as sugar apples go it is excellent.
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Re: Birth of a new Chewy Purple Sugar Apple- A. squamosa 'Isan Indigo'
« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2017, 01:51:43 PM »
Awesome. Those look gorgeous. Put me on the list. :)
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Re: Birth of a new Chewy Purple Sugar Apple- A. squamosa 'Isan Indigo'
« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2017, 01:59:42 PM »
I also want seeds plzz

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Re: Birth of a new Chewy Purple Sugar Apple- A. squamosa 'Isan Indigo'
« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2017, 02:42:46 PM »
Seeds seeds seeds please :)

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Re: Birth of a new Chewy Purple Sugar Apple- A. squamosa 'Isan Indigo'
« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2017, 03:47:51 PM »
oooo me too I want seeds! Please let us know...

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Re: Birth of a new Chewy Purple Sugar Apple- A. squamosa 'Isan Indigo'
« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2017, 05:27:54 PM »
That Isan Indigo sounds great!  Sign me up for some seed or scions if you plan to sell them in the future.
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Re: Birth of a new Chewy Purple Sugar Apple- A. squamosa 'Isan Indigo'
« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2017, 05:32:03 PM »
We just made seeds available on our website due to the demand.

https://greenplanetfarm.com/products/thai-purple-chewy-sugar-apple-seeds-a-squamosa-isan-indigo

regards,Luke
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Re: Birth of a new Chewy Purple Sugar Apple- A. squamosa 'Isan Indigo'
« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2017, 05:36:13 PM »
Thanks Luke; just ordered.
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Re: Birth of a new Chewy Purple Sugar Apple- A. squamosa 'Isan Indigo'
« Reply #9 on: August 29, 2017, 05:41:08 PM »
Here's a pic of the one Luke shared with me. The fruit to seed ratio was really good even though it was an average sized sugar apple.

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Re: Birth of a new Chewy Purple Sugar Apple- A. squamosa 'Isan Indigo'
« Reply #10 on: August 29, 2017, 06:06:00 PM »
There is a similar strain of red chewy SA in Indonesia with similar dark purple color.
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Re: Birth of a new Chewy Purple Sugar Apple- A. squamosa 'Isan Indigo'
« Reply #12 on: August 29, 2017, 07:38:57 PM »
do you plan on selling scions in the future?

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Re: Birth of a new Chewy Purple Sugar Apple- A. squamosa 'Isan Indigo'
« Reply #13 on: August 29, 2017, 08:22:50 PM »
Just ordered some seeds. Thanks Luke!

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Re: Birth of a new Chewy Purple Sugar Apple- A. squamosa 'Isan Indigo'
« Reply #14 on: August 29, 2017, 10:30:19 PM »
Ill try to make scions available early next year.

Heres a video of the mother tree i made after it set fruit.
https://youtu.be/YCjzDGlkmjk
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Re: Birth of a new Chewy Purple Sugar Apple- A. squamosa 'Isan Indigo'
« Reply #15 on: August 29, 2017, 11:13:07 PM »
Thanks for making these available and spreading the goodness around! I'm looking forward to growing these!
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Re: Birth of a new Chewy Purple Sugar Apple- A. squamosa 'Isan Indigo'
« Reply #16 on: August 30, 2017, 12:11:05 AM »
Just an idea, but would be interesting to breed this with a Lisa or Noel's big red... maybe get some really interesting red offspring.

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Re: Birth of a new Chewy Purple Sugar Apple- A. squamosa 'Isan Indigo'
« Reply #17 on: August 30, 2017, 12:13:25 AM »
Just an idea, but would be interesting to breed this with a Lisa or Noel's big red... maybe get some really interesting red offspring.

-joep450

Or cross it with one of the jumbo size moyas... jumbo geffner, jumbo ap, pink's mammoth, etc.

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Re: Birth of a new Chewy Purple Sugar Apple- A. squamosa 'Isan Indigo'
« Reply #18 on: August 30, 2017, 12:16:04 PM »
Ill try to make scions available early next year.

Heres a video of the mother tree i made after it set fruit.
https://youtu.be/YCjzDGlkmjk

Nice video.  Look forward to grafted trees.
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Re: Birth of a new Chewy Purple Sugar Apple- A. squamosa 'Isan Indigo'
« Reply #19 on: August 31, 2017, 04:26:42 PM »
a nice 'isan indigo' fruit and half cut section showing 'meatiness' and low seed counts.



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Re: Birth of a new Chewy Purple Sugar Apple- A. squamosa 'Isan Indigo'
« Reply #20 on: August 31, 2017, 09:21:06 PM »
Impressive.
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Re: Birth of a new Chewy Purple Sugar Apple- A. squamosa 'Isan Indigo'
« Reply #21 on: August 31, 2017, 09:27:01 PM »
a nice 'isan indigo' fruit and half cut section showing 'meatiness' and low seed counts.




I like how it's still holding it's form and not just sugary muck

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Re: Birth of a new Chewy Purple Sugar Apple- A. squamosa 'Isan Indigo'
« Reply #22 on: September 01, 2017, 02:56:16 AM »
Please put me down for seeds or scions

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Re: Birth of a new Chewy Purple Sugar Apple- A. squamosa 'Isan Indigo'
« Reply #23 on: September 01, 2017, 01:46:38 PM »
You could go to his web store and order seeds right now.

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Re: Birth of a new Chewy Purple Sugar Apple- A. squamosa 'Isan Indigo'
« Reply #24 on: September 01, 2017, 05:10:53 PM »
I think you'll find that type has been grown around Ubon Ractchathani to the Mekong nearby for decades.

 

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