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Re: Yuzu... my new obsession!
« Reply #50 on: August 13, 2018, 10:50:44 AM »
It is selected and named by French citrus guru Alias

Citrus junos yuzu n°3 R-18°c maturité:OCT-NOV qualité: XXXXX
So this is a good variety right? Thank's!

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« Reply #51 on: August 13, 2018, 06:07:42 PM »

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« Reply #52 on: August 13, 2018, 06:24:05 PM »

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Re: Yuzu... my new obsession!
« Reply #54 on: September 04, 2018, 08:06:13 PM »
If anyone wonders what the Yuzu aroma is like, it's like a mix of mandarin orange, satsuma mandarin, sour marmalade orange (C. aurantium), and lemon all combined together. There's a lesser note (maybe 25%) of grapefruit in there, and a very slight but discernable note of guava. There's also something very pungently deep and "spicy" about the fragrance of Yuzu, which is probably one of the first things you'll notice when you smell it. It's a very unique citrus smell.
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Re: Yuzu... my new obsession!
« Reply #55 on: September 04, 2018, 09:20:04 PM »
I once had a Yuzu tree,  I remember it as a very sour fruit, literally packed with seeds and very little juice..   I noticed with interest the Okinawan Lime in Louisport post.  I lived on Okinawa for a couple years and never seen a single orange tree of any type.
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Re: Yuzu... my new obsession!
« Reply #56 on: September 04, 2018, 09:59:07 PM »
A video some of you may be interested in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdUq2AVLEn8
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Re: Yuzu... my new obsession!
« Reply #57 on: September 05, 2018, 04:54:13 AM »
A video some of you may be interested in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdUq2AVLEn8
WOW! What a great video, so inspiring! Thank you very much! I already have 2 yuzu kito, 3 sudachi and one dekopon...  ;D

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Re: Yuzu... my new obsession!
« Reply #58 on: September 06, 2018, 12:18:12 AM »
Yes, indeed a good video!

Louis, are your yuzu trees already in fruiting age?

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« Reply #59 on: September 06, 2018, 03:49:26 AM »
Yes, indeed a good video!

Louis, are your yuzu trees already in fruiting age?
No they are vey small. I buy them on DAVAO.

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Re: Yuzu... my new obsession!
« Reply #60 on: September 06, 2018, 07:06:34 AM »
Adavo has Sudachi? Are you sure? I have been there three weeks ago -no Sudachi. Real Sudachi. Hanayuzu is not Sudachi, that's false.

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« Reply #61 on: September 06, 2018, 10:20:40 AM »
Adavo has Sudachi? Are you sure? I have been there three weeks ago -no Sudachi. Real Sudachi. Hanayuzu is not Sudachi, that's false.
No, my sudachi is not from ADAVO. I got it from other place. And of course hanayuzu is not sudachi. I think mine are real because they came from seeds from Japan.

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Re: Yuzu... my new obsession!
« Reply #62 on: October 23, 2018, 05:01:21 PM »
Here is a list of Yuzu and related Yuzu cultivars in Japan:
`Tochikei yuzu' and `Zai rai kei yuzu' are traditional cultivars of `Yuzu'. `Mukaku yuzu' is a seedless cultivar, while `Yuzu' have seeds in the fruit. It may be considered that `Mukaku yuzu' might have
originated from mutation of `Yuzu'.
Source : https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/e607/9a2c6c30fc584b57f780a1470c7daac18e17.pdf

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Re: Yuzu... my new obsession!
« Reply #63 on: October 24, 2018, 08:53:18 AM »
Here is a list of Yuzu and related Yuzu cultivars in Japan:
`Tochikei yuzu' and `Zai rai kei yuzu' are traditional cultivars of `Yuzu'. `Mukaku yuzu' is a seedless cultivar, while `Yuzu' have seeds in the fruit. It may be considered that `Mukaku yuzu' might have
originated from mutation of `Yuzu'.
Source : https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/e607/9a2c6c30fc584b57f780a1470c7daac18e17.pdf
Hello my friend. Do you grow yuzu? Thank's!

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Re: Yuzu... my new obsession!
« Reply #64 on: October 24, 2018, 03:15:07 PM »
Hello my friend. Do you grow yuzu? Thank's!

Hello Luis, not yet but I saw your interest and I think it's a good try. So I will try to get one.
If you told me before, I would have get it when I visited Japan.
I will ask my Japanese friends if they can find the seedless variety `Mukaku yuzu'.
If you grow it from seed, from what I read it takes long time to fruit perhaps 10 years.

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Re: Yuzu... my new obsession!
« Reply #65 on: October 24, 2018, 03:20:07 PM »
Is Mukaku yuzu the same as tada nishiki?

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Re: Yuzu... my new obsession!
« Reply #66 on: October 24, 2018, 06:04:27 PM »
Is Mukaku yuzu the same as tada nishiki?

It seems to be different Mukaku yuzu is a yuzu with a genetic abnormality making it seedless.
Tada nishiki is a hybrid of yuzu with seedless small fruits.

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Re: Yuzu... my new obsession!
« Reply #67 on: October 24, 2018, 06:35:36 PM »
Is Mukaku yuzu the same as tada nishiki?

It seems to be different Mukaku yuzu is a yuzu with a genetic abnormality making it seedless.
Tada nishiki is a hybrid of yuzu with seedless small fruits.
Could you please provide a link
 I read many times elsewhere that Tada nishiki is a large fruited seedless Yuzu and  assumed that it is just a variety of Mukaku
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Re: Yuzu... my new obsession!
« Reply #68 on: October 25, 2018, 02:11:42 AM »
Is Mukaku yuzu the same as tada nishiki?

It seems to be different Mukaku yuzu is a yuzu with a genetic abnormality making it seedless.
Tada nishiki is a hybrid of yuzu with seedless small fruits.
Could you please provide a link
 I read many times elsewhere that Tada nishiki is a large fruited seedless Yuzu and  assumed that it is just a variety of Mukaku
Yes, that's what I thought – hence my question.

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Re: Yuzu... my new obsession!
« Reply #69 on: October 25, 2018, 12:51:02 PM »
However, what we pick up this time is "Yutako Tada" called Yuzu. Have you heard of the name Tada Nishiki? I knew for the first time I ate this sweet.

What is different between Tada Nishiki and ordinary yuzu is the amount of sprinkle juice. Normal citrus fruit juice is about 18% of the whole, Tada Nishiki surpasses 30%! It is surprising that even this same citron has a difference this much! What is raising this citron is a contract farmer in Okutamiwa, Hyogo prefecture, using high-quality Tada Nishiki obtained locally.

It is sweeter and smaller than seeded Yuzu.
Perhaps there are many varities, I don't know


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Re: Yuzu... my new obsession!
« Reply #70 on: October 25, 2018, 12:55:14 PM »
Is Mukaku yuzu the same as tada nishiki?

It seems to be different Mukaku yuzu is a yuzu with a genetic abnormality making it seedless.
Tada nishiki is a hybrid of yuzu with seedless small fruits.
Could you please provide a link
 I read many times elsewhere that Tada nishiki is a large fruited seedless Yuzu and  assumed that it is just a variety of Mukaku

Yes,

Mukaku (無核) is just a word for seedless.

There is
Mukaku Kishu (無核紀州)
Mukaku yuzu
Mukaku sudachi
Mukaku kabosu

It is just general title.

on other hand,

Tada nishiki yuzu
Mushi mukaku sudachi
Yushi mukaku sudachi
Sobonokaori kabosu

are names of specific seedless cultivars.
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Re: Yuzu... my new obsession!
« Reply #71 on: October 25, 2018, 01:34:21 PM »
So fruit is smaller but juicier.



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Re: Yuzu... my new obsession!
« Reply #72 on: October 25, 2018, 02:40:41 PM »
So fruit is smaller but juicier.
Well I'm sure there would be more juice if all that space inside wasn't taken up by seeds.

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Re: Yuzu... my new obsession!
« Reply #73 on: October 25, 2018, 03:45:11 PM »
Some people in Europe do have it, it is larger than an average seeded Yuzu and of course since there are no seeds,it has more juice.
It is not a Yuzu hybrid.
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Re: Yuzu... my new obsession!
« Reply #74 on: October 25, 2018, 04:21:10 PM »
Some people in Europe do have it, it is larger than an average seeded Yuzu and of course since there are no seeds,it has more juice.
It is not a Yuzu hybrid.

All the pictures I see on Japanese blogs and scientific references (like the paper I posted above) say it's smaller 80g vs seeded 130 g, and that it has a slightly different texture, a bit more sweet. Perhaps those in Europe are a variety made in Europe or who knows what cross.

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(1) The fruit weight of seedless yuzu was about half of yuzu's, however, the former is seedless and its yield of juice reached to 30% being twice of the latter's. (2) The acid-sugar ratios of mature-green and mature-yellow seedless yuzu juices were 3.29 and 2.08, respectively, and those of yuzu juices were 1.20 and 2.44

This in plain words means the juice harvest is the same. Seedless yuzu has 30% juice but half size of seeded Yuzu who has 18% juice. Perhaps this is the reason in Japan seeded yuzu is the most cultivated. They also use the skin (oils, extracts, bath etc), so a bigger harvest from seeded yuzu, more cash revenue. Also seedless yuzu is less vigorous.

There is an improperly named, ONI Yuzu who is big and can be also seedless. This is actually not an yuzu, but a hybrid of ichangensis.
« Last Edit: October 25, 2018, 04:31:01 PM by lebmung »

 

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