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Atemoya vs Cherimoya
« on: January 16, 2012, 03:56:41 PM »
There was a thread in the old GW forum on this subject. Hopefully with these pics everyone will be able to recognize an Atemoya from a Cherimoya. These are African Pride, Dr. White and Booth.

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Re: Atemoya vs Cherimoya
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2012, 04:32:30 PM »
so those ae all cherimoyas?
I've never known the difference between the following:

cherimoya
atemoya
sugar apple
custard apple

anyone care to explain?

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Re: Atemoya vs Cherimoya
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2012, 04:39:30 PM »
no lycheeluva
the first one is the african pride atemoya. second, booth cherimoya followed by an african pride and a Dr. white cherimoya. and of course, I used a guava to juxtapose the differences in size.

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Re: Atemoya vs Cherimoya
« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2012, 05:59:24 PM »
thanks jf- and sugar apple and custard apple?

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Re: Atemoya vs Cherimoya
« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2012, 06:32:55 PM »
Lycheeluva,
I think I should be telling you to google it because wikipedia has all the information you seek. They are all closely related and the atemoya is a cross with the cherimoya and the sugar apple. If you would like, I can try to mail you a custard apple fruit to NY this year.

Cherimoya: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherimoya
Atemoya: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atemoya
Sugar Apple: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sugar_apple
Custard Apple: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Custard-apple

They are all also related to one of your favorite fruit the soursop: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soursop


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Re: Atemoya vs Cherimoya
« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2012, 07:10:03 PM »
i would loooooooove for you to mail me a custard apple!

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Re: Atemoya vs Cherimoya
« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2012, 07:18:00 PM »
Message me your address and I'll send you a fruit if I can find one without chalcid fly.

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Re: Atemoya vs Cherimoya
« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2012, 08:02:47 PM »
so how do the four stack up in terms of
seediness
complexity of taste
bearing precociusness

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Re: Atemoya vs Cherimoya
« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2012, 03:56:29 PM »
Sometimes it's impossible to distinguish chirimoya from atemoya just from the (fruit/leaf/plant) appereance...

JF, can you please elaborate on the eating quality of those cultivars? I've heard different opinions about African Pride..

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Re: Atemoya vs Cherimoya
« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2012, 10:20:17 PM »
Felipe:

Chirimoya are creamier and smoother and much more milder than an Atemoya. The Atemoya can be slightly grainy sometime it leaves me with an unpleasant aftertaste.

Lycheeluva:

Here is a pic of a Yucatan Red Custard Apple it was sicking sweet I could only stand two bits


and here is a pic of a Santa Ana Sugar Apple less grainy than an Atemoya and creamier.

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Re: Atemoya vs Cherimoya
« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2012, 10:43:29 PM »
HI JF
How productive is that sugar apple in santa ana or overall here in Southern CA?...Mr....$%^ adviced me not to waste my time/money on it...
Also is atemoya in general larger fruit sixethan cherimoya?
Thanks
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Re: Atemoya vs Cherimoya
« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2012, 11:04:52 PM »
DT

This one is very productive the only problem is half of them mummify before maturity. Santa Ana and Cypress are the two cities that I know who have had sucess with Sugar Apples.

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Re: Atemoya vs Cherimoya
« Reply #12 on: January 20, 2012, 03:01:04 PM »
JF, in your describtion, were you refering to African Pride atemoya or just atemoya in general?

Did you save seeds from that custard apple?

Great pics! You make me so jealous... ;-)

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Re: Atemoya vs Cherimoya
« Reply #13 on: January 20, 2012, 04:09:06 PM »
Jf...your decription of atemoyas as being "somewhat grainy and leaving you with an aftertaste" is pretty contrary to my experience with atemoyas.  I have eaten Gefner (my favorite), African Pride, Rosendo Perez, Lisa (48-26), Page, Petch Pakchong, Priestly and Bradley.  Of these, I would classify only Lisa (48-26) as inferior. The others were smooth with no stone cells to speak of (which cause the gritty texture you find in sugar apples) and I have never encountered any negative flavors in any of these.  Which specific atemoyas are you referring to when you describe them in this way?

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Re: Atemoya vs Cherimoya
« Reply #14 on: January 20, 2012, 05:43:16 PM »
Harry, I'm comparing them to cherimoya. I've tried geftner, bradley and african pride atemoya and they seem to fall short to a cherimoya in texture and taste. IMO, Cherimoyas are la creme de la anonas.

Felipe. I was talking about Atemoya in general. I notice after I arrived from Mexico that I accidentally
left a few custurd apple seeds in my pocket, among other seeds 8) I gave Jacob 3 or 4 and I kept 3. All of them sprouted in late summer one seedling survive.

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Re: Atemoya vs Cherimoya
« Reply #15 on: January 20, 2012, 07:03:32 PM »
Yah, you can't really beat a california grown cherimoya. That's probably the fruit I most miss from socal. The ones we find in the super markets here in sofl are trash.

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Re: Atemoya vs Cherimoya
« Reply #16 on: January 20, 2012, 07:54:51 PM »
I agree with Harry, I have eaten plenty of Atemoya also including Gefner, Lisa, Priestly, and others and have never had one with any grittiness  or aftertaste. Maybe what Felipe has was a inferior Custard Apple (reticulata)
   
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Re: Atemoya vs Cherimoya
« Reply #17 on: January 20, 2012, 10:15:46 PM »
With all due respect to Harry and Floridagreenman I will stick to my story. In a comparison taste test between them( Atemoya and Cherimoya) - I forgot to add Vietnamese Atemoya to the list of Atemoyas I've tasted- the Atemoya taste grainy and, leaves me and my 6 family members, a bit of an aftertaste. This is NOT my recollection this is a real time taste test.

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Re: Atemoya vs Cherimoya
« Reply #18 on: January 20, 2012, 10:20:29 PM »

Here is a pic of a Yucatan Red Custard Apple it was sicking sweet I could only stand two bits




The best fruits in the entire picture are those mombins. Delicious. I could eat those every day.

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Re: Atemoya vs Cherimoya
« Reply #19 on: January 21, 2012, 05:29:13 AM »
Felipe. I was talking about Atemoya in general. I notice after I arrived from Mexico that I accidentally
left a few custurd apple seeds in my pocket....

Amigo, yes, I know that story... shit happens! I also often forget seeds in my pockets...  ;D

Guys, maybe being "somewhat grainy and leaving you with an aftertaste"is due to endoclimatic factors??! What do you think?

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Re: Atemoya vs Cherimoya
« Reply #20 on: January 21, 2012, 08:20:16 AM »

The best fruits in the entire picture are those mombins. Delicious. I could eat those every day.
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Why, are you out of mamoncillo?  ::)

 

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