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I live in New Orleans, so do not have access to top mangos to taste.
outside of Kent, Keitt, Tommy, and Ataulfo, ive only had  a few, and it was years ago.

So i am looking to graft at least 5 different varieties
i would like them to be as spread out as possible
and also high production.
Obviously taste is also important, but season and production is more so.

I also have to worry about availability
if it is a very rare variety, it might be hard to get scions.

Ataulfo, Kent and 1 other will be the rootstocks.
im not sure what the 3rd is, but it might be Florigon ?

largest tree is here
http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=20618.0


1 more issue
we had a freeze in Jan, and my largest froze back to the roots
(or close)
now i have 5 branches coming up from the ground
One is so long and spindly, it is drooping down to the ground.

So, i am guessing i should graft as low as possible ?
and the characteristics should stay with the scion
(about it being more rigid) correct ?





mango on right...



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Re: recommendations for mango scions to graft onto seedling (production?)
« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2017, 11:33:40 AM »
I'd say Pickering, Maha, honey Kiss possibly a rosigold for early season
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Re: recommendations for mango scions to graft onto seedling (production?)
« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2017, 12:32:37 PM »
You could try using only fairly slow growing compact varieties like skhan suggested,grafting them as low as possible, and then  trying to temporarily bury them in mulch past the graft unions during a severe freeze. Then cover them wtih blankets or row cover cloth or trying something like pitching a bottomless tent over them to give a few extra degrees of frost protection.
A small kerosense lamp inside a temporary structure on a really cold night will help,they generate a good amount of heat.
You could build a temporary structure and drape blankets over the trees if you don't use a lamp. I wouldn't try Rosigold unless you do lots of fungicide sprays. The other approach is to try using extremely vigorous varieties for faster regrowth after a freeze,while still protecting them as much as possible. You will get faster regrowth from a very vigorous variety like Valencia pride. I think there are a few even more vigrous than that.. You can also wrap branches in foam pipe insulation too.

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Re: recommendations for mango scions to graft onto seedling (production?)
« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2017, 12:57:06 PM »
You could try using only fairly slow growing compact varieties like skhan suggested,grafting them as low as possible, and then  trying to temporarily bury them in mulch past the graft unions during a severe freeze. Then cover them wtih blankets or row cover cloth or trying something like pitching a bottomless tent over them to give a few extra degrees of frost protection.

grafting low and blankets are great idea, they really are inches above the soil.

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A small kerosense lamp inside a temporary structure on a really cold night will help,they generate a good amount of heat.
You could build a temporary structure and drape blankets over the trees if you don't use a lamp. I wouldn't try Rosigold unless you do lots of fungicide sprays. The other approach is to try using extremely vigorous varieties for faster regrowth after a freeze,while still protecting them as much as possible. You will get faster regrowth from a very vigorous variety like Valencia pride. I think there are a few even more vigrous than that.. You can also wrap branches in foam pipe insulation too.



ive tried building tents etc...
either i forget
once i got tired and fell asleep
once the wind blew over a tent.
im over it.
pipe insulation could work  though

is VP early, mid, late ... ??

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thanks, will keep those in mind.

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Re: recommendations for mango scions to graft onto seedling (production?)
« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2017, 02:11:05 PM »
Down here I usually get vp July-August.
But it's a big tree so I wouldn't grow it if I was worried about the cold.

Let me know if you need any Budwood in spring. We'll work out a trade or something.
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