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Hog/June plum - Spondis cold tolerance ??
« on: December 19, 2017, 03:13:41 PM »
So i was under the impression i could not grow these in New Orleans zone 9

but, i just saw a couple of videos on youtube from Orlando
and Pheonix of people growing these.-
Is one species more tolerant than the others ? which one ?
If i get a late frost will i lose all the fruit ?

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Re: Hog/June plum - Spondis cold tolerance ??
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2017, 06:26:41 PM »
I have a red fruit type. It blooms late and I get fruit around June or July.
We didn't have frost the past two years and it barely lost its leaves. It was loaded
with fruit both years and I really enjoy it. The other night we had a light frost and all
the leaves are turning yellow now. I was told they will die back easy but come back from
the roots like guava. Who wants a tree that is always coming back from a die off every
year and doesn't have fruit? If we were going to have a real cold night I would take several
cuttings to be sure I didn't lose it. It is a very fast growing tree and very low maintenance.
I saw one at Ace hardware for 15 bucks in a 7 gallon. It must of been 8 feet tall so I bought it
and stuck it in the ground. The hurricane blasted it and I had to stake it back up. It seems ok
even with the frost. Hopefully we won't have a super cold night because allot of my trees got
pruned heavy and staked up after Irma. I also have a small tree still in a pot that is suppose to
be the yellow fruited one, I'll plant it in the spring. I saw that picture of the sleet at your place, how
did you make out? The last two years have been pretty rough for you!

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Re: Hog/June plum - Spondis cold tolerance ??
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2017, 07:51:44 AM »
are you talking about Ambarella? because, hog plum and june plum are different.

Hog plum = Spondias mombin
June plum = Spondias dulcis

from what I've read in the past, I think Ambarella/June Plum can tolerate cold better than Hog plums. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong.

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Re: Hog/June plum - Spondis cold tolerance ??
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2017, 08:29:23 AM »
What kind of plums is this one, Harpephyllum Caffrum? Is this the same plum as the Filipino "sineguelas?" I love sineguelas. Can't stop eating it whenever I visit the Philippines. Thanks!
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Re: Hog/June plum - Spondis cold tolerance ??
« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2017, 11:04:14 AM »
I have a red fruit type. It blooms late and I get fruit around June or July.
We didn't have frost the past two years and it barely lost its leaves. It was loaded
with fruit both years and I really enjoy it. The other night we had a light frost and all
the leaves are turning yellow now. I was told they will die back easy but come back from
the roots like guava. Who wants a tree that is always coming back from a die off every
year and doesn't have fruit? If we were going to have a real cold night I would take several
cuttings to be sure I didn't lose it. It is a very fast growing tree and very low maintenance.
I saw one at Ace hardware for 15 bucks in a 7 gallon. It must of been 8 feet tall so I bought it
and stuck it in the ground. The hurricane blasted it and I had to stake it back up. It seems ok
even with the frost. Hopefully we won't have a super cold night because allot of my trees got
pruned heavy and staked up after Irma. I also have a small tree still in a pot that is suppose to
be the yellow fruited one, I'll plant it in the spring. I saw that picture of the sleet at your place, how
did you make out? The last two years have been pretty rough for you!


yeah, im 55yrs old and i think ive seen snow maybe 5 or 6 times in New Orleans
maybe once or twice a decade we get a hard freeze
this last frost wasnt that bad actually, it just burned leaves on mango guava etc...

everything i had read indicated that the whole family was more sensitive than other subtropicals
(like mango, guava papaya ...)
then i read saw a couple of videos that indicated otherwise.
b ut, it was unclear how long they had the plants
and if they did any special protection.

also...
and the reason for the post, is i am wondering if one species in the family is more tolerant ??

i did a search on http://www.colecionandofrutas.org
that shows cold tolerance, and of 3 types, Spondis Mombin showed -3C
while the other 2 showed -2C.
but, not sure how much they know about these.

 

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