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EZ-Flow Fertilizer Injector System for your yard
« on: April 18, 2018, 02:18:34 PM »
Besides several tropical fruit trees, I have flowers and grow vegetables. Majority of my system is Drip, while I have sprinklers in some portion of my yard that is lawn.  On drips, biggest challenge is fertilizing, specially in Southern California where it does not rain much except winter time.

I just ordered 2.5 Gal EZ-Flow Fertilizer Injector System. My plan is to install this in my main line after the backflow preventor. and then fertilize my zones according to my needs. I have about 19 zones, and have Rachio automatic controllers where I can pretty much set however I like on my phone. Goal is to deliver fertilizer (liquid) directly via drips when I need and when I dont I can simply shutoff the unit.

Has anyone else used this or is using this? https://youtu.be/eEgnu712YGM
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Re: EZ-Flow Fertilizer Injector System for your yard
« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2018, 03:35:30 PM »
Hmmm, looks like no one here!

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« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2018, 11:01:55 PM »
Is this a fertigation system? Easy to install?

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« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2018, 11:03:22 PM »
No, duh

I just saw the video

Fertigation it is. I’ll ask my landscape guy what system he has in mind

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« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2018, 09:39:21 AM »
I know a guy who grew up in Israel and farmed there. So he has drip irrigation in his blood years before he came to Florida. Israelis being the pioneers in drip irrigation.

He bought some fruit trees and mangoes from me. He has land in upstate Florida in Frostproof (a town) with lychee and mamey and some others. I have eaten his lychees and even sold them to local lychee hounds. He uses zero mulch and the soil is as porous and sandy as most Florida soils. So zero or nearly zero organic matter is in the soil. He uses fertigation plus also uses fertilizer you spread on top. The fruit trees do well.

So you can go this way and others have called it a form of hydroponic gardening as a joke. But this is true. The soil is adding a minimum to his fruit trees nutrition. The soil is there to merely hold his fruit trees upright.
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« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2018, 11:56:35 AM »
My concern is adding anything more to the water that might increase the chance of clogging the emitters.

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« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2018, 12:47:30 PM »
I looked into it and my plan is to use liquid ferts only. Make my own NPK strength concussion and use accordingly. Another way is to use 100% water soluble fert, and premix worth water using mortar mixer, then strain the mix into the tank. Those using it have good reviews. On drips, it is very hard to fertilize in CA due to drought weather. I will have my system up and running in 3 weeks. Will report results in 6 weeks. Having over 500 fruit trees, plants, shrubs on drips is hard to fertilize.

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« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2018, 01:01:07 PM »
You can get liquid humic acid concentrate I think.  That would be a good addition to your fertilizer.  I think it's a lot cheaper to blend your own fertilizer vs buying liquid ferts, the problem is getting all the micro nutrients in there.  Urea and other base fertilizers disolve really quick in water so that will not be a problem. 
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« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2018, 03:30:33 PM »
I eventually plan on adding this into my drip irrigation as well.
Let us know how it does. And how long does the liquid fertilizer last on the lowest setting.
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« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2018, 05:08:36 PM »
I have fish emulsion, seaweed extract, 50 phophorous liquid that is highly concentrated. Will add liquid potassium and nitrogen. There are lots of things that can be done. Ii will look for more.

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« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2018, 08:22:18 PM »
Fish emulsion in there is going to be awesome.  That stuff rocks.
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Re: EZ-Flow Fertilizer Injector System for your yard
« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2018, 10:45:47 PM »
Does the tank have a bladder to keep the fertilizer separate or does the fertilizer get diluted by the incoming water line as it gets pushed into the stream?

When I do this, I will probably use a venturi injector. For a 1 inch line it was around $150 plus the cost of a tank.
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« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2018, 01:15:08 AM »
Does the tank have a bladder to keep the fertilizer separate or does the fertilizer get diluted by the incoming water line as it gets pushed into the stream?

When I do this, I will probably use a venturi injector. For a 1 inch line it was around $150 plus the cost of a tank.

there is setting on tank that can dilute as you want. best is to go slowest setting so tank can last 30-days of watering while giving small dose on each watering. On days when I want to hit high dose to say my mangoes OR nitrogen only to my lawn, I can run sprinkler for lawn on stand alone and then shut off the unit. its pretty slick. Hope it works as the manufacturer says. regardless, it will be better than having no way for me to fertilizer my 400 shrubs/flowers/plants that are on drip that is buried. some dose of organic ferts will be awesome. Tank I got is 2.5 Gal tank and it has doses highlighted.

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« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2018, 07:52:18 AM »
My point is that on day 1 the strength of fertilizer in the tank is 100% but on day 20 it would be down to 33%. From what little I have read on fertigation, the rate and frequency is not as important as the overall quantity (lbs of N-P-K, etc).  However, I feel injecting an undiluted nutrient solution is easier to understand, control, and manage.

Here is a link to a website that sells the venturi injectors I was looking at purchasing. The components can be purchased on amazon for less $$$.

https://www.dripworks.com/1-mazzei-injectors-and-accessories
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« Reply #14 on: April 23, 2018, 08:16:05 AM »
I looked into it and my plan is to use liquid ferts only. Make my own NPK strength concussion and use accordingly. Another way is to use 100% water soluble fert, and premix worth water using mortar mixer, then strain the mix into the tank. Those using it have good reviews. On drips, it is very hard to fertilize in CA due to drought weather. I will have my system up and running in 3 weeks. Will report results in 6 weeks. Having over 500 fruit trees, plants, shrubs on drips is hard to fertilize.

Dosatron injector and Dyna-Gro liquid plant food are pretty hard to beat.

If you have the pressure at your source, say 50 PSI, you might get by with a Mazzei.   Another good ol timey solution is Hozon Syphonex.  Have one from 40 years ago, still working fine.   No moving parts!


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« Reply #15 on: April 23, 2018, 12:39:25 PM »
My point is that on day 1 the strength of fertilizer in the tank is 100% but on day 20 it would be down to 33%. From what little I have read on fertigation, the rate and frequency is not as important as the overall quantity (lbs of N-P-K, etc).  However, I feel injecting an undiluted nutrient solution is easier to understand, control, and manage.

Here is a link to a website that sells the venturi injectors I was looking at purchasing. The components can be purchased on amazon for less $$$.

https://www.dripworks.com/1-mazzei-injectors-and-accessories
Correct, but depending on setting you can get that first dose to be smaller much smaller. key here is that plants will be fed at each watering slow doeses

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« Reply #16 on: April 23, 2018, 12:45:39 PM »
http://ezfloinjection.com/resources/how-ez-flo-works/

if you read it and if it works like they say, there is no dilution that occurs so concentration stays consistent from start to depleting of entire tank, they cant claim it falsely.

EZ-FLO’s patented flow technologies effectively create an “invisible bladder” that separates the clear water entering the tank from the fertilizer concentrate at the bottom of the tank. As clear water is introduced into the tank, it arrives in a number of areas. Port water inlets at the top of the tank create a clear layer of water that separates it from the fertilizer concentrate. Additionally a micro-jet agitation nozzle at the bottom of the tank “gently” agitates the heavier fertilizer concentrate, keeping the resulting semi-dissolved solution at even chemical concentration levels leaving the tank. Because of this ‘invisible bladder effect” there is no real dilution of the suspended N-P-K in the tank through out most of the tank cycle.  Only when you get to the end of the tank contents do the NPK percentages fall off.
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« Reply #17 on: April 23, 2018, 01:27:22 PM »
That explanation on the website seems to defy what I was taught when I was a youngster, something about diffusion and equalibrium. It could be true when using a powder that fully saturates the water volume of the tank and continues to dissolve over time.
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« Reply #18 on: April 23, 2018, 01:30:56 PM »
true. I water twice a week and water deeply. we know we dont fertilize weekly so a light dose of fertilizer on every watering you cant go wrong.

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« Reply #19 on: April 23, 2018, 04:56:51 PM »
Easy to test with a tds meter
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« Reply #20 on: April 26, 2018, 08:05:53 PM »
ez flow (same brand) is the one my landscape contractor recommended.

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« Reply #21 on: April 27, 2018, 12:55:22 AM »
Cool. Get big tank. I got 2.5 gal for my 1/3rd acre.  A 5 gal should be more than sufficient. Read specs on how much it will cover.

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« Reply #22 on: May 16, 2018, 04:02:48 PM »
Finally I finished installation of backflow preventer and EZ Flow fertigation system. filled it with Growmore 20-20-20 and that is my first dose on slow setting, will see how long it lasts and what the results are. Hoping it to last 3 weeks, I water twice a week to all my plants and grass. Will see how it goes. so far, I am done worrying about my 400 plus California native and succulents on how to feed them manually. Next major step is to check drips, lol, its been 3 years.

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« Reply #23 on: May 18, 2018, 02:08:40 AM »
Mine is installed but I haven’t run it yet as remainder of irrigation isn’t done yet.

I bought the following liquid fertilizers:

Dr earth seaweed 0-0-4.5
Dr earth nitro big 7-2-2
Dr earth golden bloom 2-7-2

I also have keyplex, so ag citrus, so ag palm, and root ruckus liquid compost concentrate.

The last few I use in foliar feeding (except for root ruckus). Excited to try it out and see how it works, although I haven’t looked into how the dilution works or if it’s adjustable. Congrats! And good luck with the next project.

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« Reply #24 on: May 19, 2018, 12:37:01 AM »
http://ezfloinjection.com/resources/how-ez-flo-works/

if you read it and if it works like they say, there is no dilution that occurs so concentration stays consistent from start to depleting of entire tank, they cant claim it falsely.

EZ-FLO’s patented flow technologies effectively create an “invisible bladder” that separates the clear water entering the tank from the fertilizer concentrate at the bottom of the tank. As clear water is introduced into the tank, it arrives in a number of areas. Port water inlets at the top of the tank create a clear layer of water that separates it from the fertilizer concentrate. Additionally a micro-jet agitation nozzle at the bottom of the tank “gently” agitates the heavier fertilizer concentrate, keeping the resulting semi-dissolved solution at even chemical concentration levels leaving the tank. Because of this ‘invisible bladder effect” there is no real dilution of the suspended N-P-K in the tank through out most of the tank cycle.  Only when you get to the end of the tank contents do the NPK percentages fall off.


Sounds like a crock to me, they can claim anything falsely, who is to stop them?  It still sounds interesting to me, but I don't believe that "invisible bladder effect" crap for one second.  Ever heard of Occam's Razor??  I find that principal is almost always correct.

 

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