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Elaeagnus Latifolia Suitable For Southern California?
« on: May 25, 2018, 06:39:30 AM »
Hello everyone,

Can Elaeagnus Latifolia survive in southern California's environment? Looks like a good plumesque fruit. Thanks.

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Re: Elaeagnus Latifolia Suitable For Southern California?
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2018, 06:53:43 AM »
I have two year old plants growing from seed in pots. They are vigorous growers once they get going. No fruit yet, I’m hopeing at the three year mark I will be seeing some flowers and fruit.

« Last Edit: May 25, 2018, 07:05:41 AM by So_Cal_Mike »
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Re: Elaeagnus Latifolia Suitable For Southern California?
« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2018, 07:15:19 AM »
Awesome news! Thanks.

I have two year old plants growing from seed in pots. They are vigorous growers once they get going. No fruit yet, Im hopeing at the three year mark I will be seeing some flowers and fruit.



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Re: Elaeagnus Latifolia Suitable For Southern California?
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2018, 07:37:53 PM »
This plant is a sub tropical from NE India, so should be able to take temperatures in S. California just fine. The only difficulty might be in areas with very low humidity. But you can correct this by growing it next to pond or water container.
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Re: Elaeagnus Latifolia Suitable For Southern California?
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2018, 09:18:12 PM »
I'm down near the Mexico border near the ocean and mine is 8 feet tall and never has problems throughout the year.

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Re: Elaeagnus Latifolia Suitable For Southern California?
« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2018, 09:48:37 PM »
Im wondering about different species or varieties of this fruit.  I have one that could be Tonkinensis that might be a sweeter fruit.  Does anyone have more to say about types and fruit quality of silver berries?
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Re: Elaeagnus Latifolia Suitable For Southern California?
« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2018, 11:57:38 PM »
I'm down near the Mexico border near the ocean and mine is 8 feet tall and never has problems throughout the year.

Mark, do you still have the Elaeagnus sp. (that's likely a hybrid with Goumi of some sort) I brought a few years back?  I'm curious how it's doing if so.  Here in the bay area it fruits heavily even in 2/3 shade and the fruits are much better than Goumi, sort of the size of a large grape and with minimal astringency.

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Re: Elaeagnus Latifolia Suitable For Southern California?
« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2018, 12:27:35 AM »
I'm down near the Mexico border near the ocean and mine is 8 feet tall and never has problems throughout the year.

Mark, do you still have the Elaeagnus sp. (that's likely a hybrid with Goumi of some sort) I brought a few years back?  I'm curious how it's doing if so.  Here in the bay area it fruits heavily even in 2/3 shade and the fruits are much better than Goumi, sort of the size of a large grape and with minimal astringency.

Hey Barath,

Yes it is the same one and is doing real good. I couldn't remember where I got it. Thanks

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Re: Elaeagnus Latifolia Suitable For Southern California?
« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2018, 02:39:55 AM »
Barath , Were you propagating that one from seed for DVC or did I maybe get one of those from you? I've got my So Shang, "Catherine Anderson", and E. Ebbingei mixed up from losing tags and I can't tell them apart. Good news is they're all planted out from 15"s now and taking off even more.

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Re: Elaeagnus Latifolia Suitable For Southern California?
« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2018, 10:13:41 AM »
Barath , Were you propagating that one from seed for DVC or did I maybe get one of those from you? I've got my So Shang, "Catherine Anderson", and E. Ebbingei mixed up from losing tags and I can't tell them apart. Good news is they're all planted out from 15"s now and taking off even more.

At DVC I was propagating both So Shang from seed (from Oscar) and the likely goumi hybrid from cutting from Catherine Anderson, though I did a lot more of the latter and that's what I brought down for Mark as well.  Catherine is a local CRFG member who found it.  It hadn't really been propagated and she doesn't know what it is or where she got it, but if I remember right she thinks it was a plant she got from a nursery that is now out of business that had mislabeled it as something else and she thinks it's a cross between goumi and some other Elaeagnus.  Her tree of it is something like 20 feet tall and wide and she cuts it back and it still fruits heavily on the North side of her house.

So Shang seems to have more thorns than the other one.
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Re: Elaeagnus Latifolia Suitable For Southern California?
« Reply #10 on: May 26, 2018, 11:38:59 AM »
Just an FYI
my So Shang seedling was about 6 inches tall
in January we had record breaking freeze... 20F temps
to much stuff for me to get to, and i forgot the So Shang.
the top died off, but its growing back from the roots.
they do seem to like a little extra iron+magnesium, if your soil isnt rich.,


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Re: Elaeagnus Latifolia Suitable For Southern California?
« Reply #11 on: May 27, 2018, 12:09:31 PM »
Hi Mark, have you or anyone you know in our area(san diego county) had any fruit yet?? i have one in my front yard about 3 years from a 5 gal. no fruit or bloom   yet.                      Patrick

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Re: Elaeagnus Latifolia Suitable For Southern California?
« Reply #12 on: May 30, 2018, 06:14:12 PM »
Mine grows like a weed in the ground in Orange County California,  8-10 ft.  No flowers or fruit yet.  I'm keeping my fingers crossed.  My other Elaeagnus have fruited readily and at a much smaller size.
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Re: Elaeagnus Latifolia Suitable For Southern California?
« Reply #13 on: May 31, 2018, 11:10:56 AM »
Well Ive never seen any thorns on any Elaeagnus so I wonder if I have a So Shang. Are the thorns only on mature wood?

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Re: Elaeagnus Latifolia Suitable For Southern California?
« Reply #14 on: May 31, 2018, 04:26:25 PM »
Well Ive never seen any thorns on any Elaeagnus so I wonder if I have a So Shang. Are the thorns only on mature wood?

Not sure I've looked carefully.  I will check mine.

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Re: Elaeagnus Latifolia Suitable For Southern California?
« Reply #15 on: May 31, 2018, 07:51:19 PM »
Well Ive never seen any thorns on any Elaeagnus so I wonder if I have a So Shang. Are the thorns only on mature wood?
Yes only on mature wood, and very few, so you can easily miss them. They're not really thorns eaither, but long pointed barbs.
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Re: Elaeagnus Latifolia Suitable For Southern California?
« Reply #16 on: May 31, 2018, 10:16:15 PM »
Mine arent showing any thorn-like structures yet... but I know plenty of other elaeagnus have thorns so I would not be surprised if I saw them.
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Re: Elaeagnus Latifolia Suitable For Southern California?
« Reply #17 on: May 31, 2018, 11:45:53 PM »
Hi Mark, have you or anyone you know in our area(san diego county) had any fruit yet?? i have one in my front yard about 3 years from a 5 gal. no fruit or bloom   yet.                      Patrick

Hey Patrick,

No flowers or fruit yet.

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Re: Elaeagnus Latifolia Suitable For Southern California?
« Reply #18 on: June 29, 2019, 09:26:02 PM »
Little update: Mine are showing thorns now, no flowers/fruit... got hit kinda hard by last years heatwave, but bounced back and growing strong now.
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