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Re: The Small Seedling Identification Thread ( UFO's )
« Reply #25 on: October 05, 2012, 10:15:22 AM »
those leaves can only belong to one Eugenia I can think if.

the most beatiful and rare Eugenia mattosii.

it has those funny oval shaped leaves...looking like a pomegranate or olive...but like Eugenia!

I'd bet all my chips on e mattosii.

it must be a nice fruit if it's named after Mattos.  The gentleman who had a field day (lol) describing plinia species to science in the year of 1976.

great job collecting.

Adam , I'll post the mattosii later today and a few more UFO's or maybe UGO's ( unidentified GROWING objects )
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Re: The Small Seedling Identification Thread ( UFO's )
« Reply #26 on: October 05, 2012, 01:21:41 PM »
Some more unidentified :
#1



#2  I think this may be Spanish cherry - Mimmusops commersonii





#3






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Re: The Small Seedling Identification Thread ( UFO's )
« Reply #27 on: October 05, 2012, 04:50:59 PM »
why do I keep thinking #1 is some type of diospyros? or ficus?

and for #2 i will agree with mimusops commersonii..grown in too much shade! LOL  makes leaves look different than I am used to.

#3 i think of Rubiaceae..maybe a species of Cordiera...or Genipa americana?
« Last Edit: October 05, 2012, 04:55:45 PM by ASaffron »

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Re: The Small Seedling Identification Thread ( UFO's )
« Reply #28 on: October 05, 2012, 04:59:55 PM »
Luc.

do u ever bust up the leaves and smell them?

this is a good way to dentify unknown plants.

It's like a taste test with your nose.  You can detect odors that are tell tale for certain families of fruit.

be careful though, some leaves can stain your fingers (i think black sapote), and some will burn your face or skin. 

But if you crush leaves and smell them, you'll find it's one of the best clues for identifying a plant.  Make sure to smell the leaves of a fruit you might suspect your unknown fruit is akin to...this way you can compare the smells for similarities.

Best of luck, Luc.  :)

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Re: The Small Seedling Identification Thread ( UFO's )
« Reply #29 on: October 05, 2012, 08:46:09 PM »


I believe this is Strychnos spinosa, but I am not 100% sure.
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Re: The Small Seedling Identification Thread ( UFO's )
« Reply #30 on: October 05, 2012, 09:55:57 PM »
looks right!

I don't have any fruit trees in this family , Loganiaceae

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Re: The Small Seedling Identification Thread ( UFO's )
« Reply #31 on: October 06, 2012, 10:28:46 PM »


I got this tree from Brazil, labeled as annona species. (its not necessarily a Brazilian native)

It's quite durable and tough..and it sends down some mean roots.  Germination was high.  I repotted them and they handled the stress like champions.  I planted one in the ground to see how it handles our climate.

any guesses?  I though it may be from Africa? 

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ID of young fruit trees in Cerritos, CA gardens
« Reply #32 on: October 07, 2012, 03:30:28 AM »
I'm hoping someone here can give me an ID of these young (presumably) fruit trees in two Cerritos (Los Angeles Co, CA) gardens. Both are slender, upright trees with large pinnate leaves, somewhat resembling Ailanthus (Tree-of-Heaven). The smaller tree is growing with jackfruit, Murraya koenigii, Syzygium samarangense, other (chiefly Asian) fruit trees, is about 5m/15ft tall. The second tree is about 10m/30ft tall. No flowers or fruit visible on either tree.

I was thinking possibly a Spondias species. Someone on another board suggested Averrhoa bilimbi. I'm not familiar with either being successfully grown in SoCal's Mediterranean climate, however.

Any ideas? Thanks in advance.

Smaller tree:
http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z93/fastfeat/DSC05917_zps6cfbfd94.jpg
http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z93/fastfeat/DSC05918_zps3273cca0.jpg
http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z93/fastfeat/DSC05920_zps9f88f003.jpg



Larger tree:
http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z93/fastfeat/100_0133_zpsdcbf4f61.jpg
http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z93/fastfeat/100_0136_zps53b9a4a9.jpg
http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z93/fastfeat/100_0137_zpse3d61791.jpg
http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z93/fastfeat/100_0135_zps11dd8515.jpg
 








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Re: ID of young fruit trees in Cerritos, CA gardens
« Reply #33 on: October 07, 2012, 03:37:40 AM »
Directly opposite droopy leaves do look like bilimbi. But if it's 30 feet tall it should have fruited very many time by now. That would make it a very old tree. So that is a bit suspicious.
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Re: The Small Seedling Identification Thread ( UFO's )
« Reply #34 on: October 07, 2012, 04:06:22 AM »
Don't see your photo Adam.
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Re: ID of young fruit trees in Cerritos, CA gardens
« Reply #35 on: October 07, 2012, 08:40:24 AM »
Are you sure they're fruit trees?  My guess is that they aren't.  Why don't you ask the owner?  That's what I always do.  He may be a little suspicious at first, but usually will open up because we love to talk about our trees and our hobby! ;D
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Re: ID of young fruit trees in Cerritos, CA gardens
« Reply #36 on: October 07, 2012, 03:46:02 PM »
It looks similar to my Spondias pinnata.. but I'm not sure if this is a fruit tree or an ornamental  ???

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What do u think is growing under the guabiju?
« Reply #37 on: October 08, 2012, 10:02:29 AM »
Hi

Some photos:

http://www.huertasurbanas.com/2012/10/07/que-es-lo-que-esta-germinando-debajo-del-guaviyu/

I think that they may be some myrtaceae sprouts... not guabiju, but maybe araza, feijoa, pitanga, campomanesia, uvaia, ubajay or some other one, because the guabiju was into a nursery that grow that kind of myrtaceae

How could we know it?

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Re: ID of young fruit trees in Cerritos, CA gardens
« Reply #38 on: October 08, 2012, 03:27:41 PM »
These trees grow wild here in San Diego as well.  Initially thought it was Curry leaf from afar with green fruits of similar size and shape, but it wasn't. I smelt the crushed leaves, and it's nothing like spondias either. All ornamental I think.
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Re: ID of young fruit trees in Cerritos, CA gardens
« Reply #39 on: October 08, 2012, 04:03:17 PM »

I know I'll recall  it when someone tells me... those reddish stems are a give away but w/o fruit and or flower i can not
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Re: ID of young fruit trees in Cerritos, CA gardens
« Reply #40 on: October 09, 2012, 08:59:59 AM »
This is Toona (Cedrela) sinensis (Meliaceae) (h/t to Daxin at Palmtalk) It isn't a fruit tree per se, but its new shoots are used as a vegetable in parts of Asia:

http://homemadefoodtalk.blogspot.com/2011/07/toona-sinensis-vegetables.html

Coming from temperate Asia, it is more commonly seen in NorCal and the Pacific NW than SoCal. Typically forms suckering thickets, a-la Ailanthus.

Thanks to all for their input.  8)

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Re: The Small Seedling Identification Thread ( UFO's )
« Reply #41 on: October 09, 2012, 05:25:50 PM »
can u see it now Oscar??



I got this tree from Brazil, labeled as annona species. (its not necessarily a Brazilian native)

It's quite durable and tough..and it sends down some mean roots.  Germination was high.  I repotted them and they handled the stress like champions.  I planted one in the ground to see how it handles our climate.

any guesses?  I though it may be from Africa? 

thanks
Don't see your photo Adam.

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Re: The Small Seedling Identification Thread ( UFO's )
« Reply #42 on: October 09, 2012, 08:34:58 PM »

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Re: The Small Seedling Identification Thread ( UFO's )
« Reply #43 on: October 09, 2012, 09:23:12 PM »
weird I can see it at home, but not on my phone?  I will re upload

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Re: The Small Seedling Identification Thread ( UFO's )
« Reply #44 on: October 09, 2012, 11:22:03 PM »
Can you see the re-up in my post?

Must be the built in anti-Adam of this SMF build ;D

weird I can see it at home, but not on my phone?  I will re upload
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Re: The Small Seedling Identification Thread ( UFO's )
« Reply #45 on: October 10, 2012, 07:26:47 AM »
That cauliflorous first tree reminds me of some species I've seen and not just in myrt.Open flowers and cut fruit would have helped.A rainforest walk up the road from me has many cauliflorous and ramiflorous species that take some effort to ID.There a so many options and I bet it is not an edible fruit.

I also don't that tall species with the droopy leaflets.I almost know it if I can put together bits of plants I know.

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Re: The Small Seedling Identification Thread ( UFO's )
« Reply #46 on: October 10, 2012, 09:31:33 AM »


I believe this is Strychnos spinosa, but I am not 100% sure.

Hi Nullzero,
Mine looks different  :-\ Will post a pic for you to see mine :)

ps...i also need to post one of my UFO'S  ;D...Cool, thread, Adam ;)
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Re: The Small Seedling Identification Thread ( UFO's )
« Reply #47 on: October 10, 2012, 09:48:08 AM »



thanks Tim!

yes can anyone help ID this annona?

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Re: The Small Seedling Identification Thread ( UFO's )
« Reply #48 on: October 10, 2012, 04:49:24 PM »


I believe this is Strychnos spinosa, but I am not 100% sure.


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Not the best of pics, though.
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« Reply #49 on: October 10, 2012, 05:23:12 PM »


I believe this is Strychnos spinosa, but I am not 100% sure.


Null,

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Not the best of pics, though.


Humm... I think they must be Geoffroea decorticans seedlings then. I got horrible organization lol, I was out of sharpies at the time as well.

I believe Strychnos spinosa is coming up in the container next to this one. I will take a picture when the leaves emerge.

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