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Alex, you said that your customers find Carrie and Angie indistinguishable.  How about you?  Do think Angie is as sweet?  (I don't.)
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Alex, you said that your customers find Carrie and Angie indistinguishable.  How about you?  Do think Angie is as sweet?  (I don't.)

The Angie's that both myself the the folks at Sulcata grove have had have been horrible spitters. One of the worst varieties I've ever had. They taste like cooked carrots.  Sulcata grove says they have tried them in 3 different seasons and agree.  Maybe we both just had bad luck because some people say they are good, but any comparison to Carrie is absurd IMHE.   

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Weird. I consider Angie to be an improved / firmer carrie. I've never tasted carrot. That's odd.

Alex, you said that your customers find Carrie and Angie indistinguishable.  How about you?  Do think Angie is as sweet?  (I don't.)

The Angie's that both myself the the folks at Sulcata grove have had have been horrible spitters. One of the worst varieties I've ever had. They taste like cooked carrots.  Sulcata grove says they have tried them in 3 different seasons and agree.  Maybe we both just had bad luck because some people say they are good, but any comparison to Carrie is absurd IMHE.   

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With Angie, resin yes.  Cooked carrots no.  But only medium sweet for me.  Texture is firm and melting, fiber-free, perfect.  I guess Southwest Florida does not bring out the best in Angie.  Back to PPK vs. Orange Sherbet, Craig of Sulcata is absolutely ecstatic about both--10 out of 10.
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With Angie, resin yes.  Cooked carrots no.  But only medium sweet for me.  Texture is firm and melting, fiber-free, perfect.  I guess Southwest Florida does not bring out the best in Angie.

They may have been eaten in SW Florida, but they were grown in SE Florida.   ;) ;) ;)
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Alex, you said that your customers find Carrie and Angie indistinguishable.  How about you?  Do think Angie is as sweet?  (I don't.)

Yes. Angie has compared very favorably to Carrie for me, though I donít get to eat them as much as I like (they all get sold). Now something to consider is that weather conditions at time of harvest, horticultural practices and harvesting time can all have an impact on a cvs flavor and it may be that Angie is more sensitive to changes in the above.

Iíve found that Indians and Caribbean customers love the Angie and find it a more than acceptable alternative to the Carrie.

If we were to take 5 properly ripened Angie and carries, cut them up and put them on separate unlabeled plates, I feel most people wouldnít be able to tell which was which.

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Alex, you said that your customers find Carrie and Angie indistinguishable.  How about you?  Do think Angie is as sweet?  (I don't.)

Yes. Angie has compared very favorably to Carrie for me, though I donít get to eat them as much as I like (they all get sold). Now something to consider is that weather conditions at time of harvest, horticultural practices and harvesting time can all have an impact on a cvs flavor and it may be that Angie is more sensitive to changes in the above.

Iíve found that Indians and Caribbean customers love the Angie and find it a more than acceptable alternative to the Carrie.

If we were to take 5 properly ripened Angie and carries, cut them up and put them on separate unlabeled plates, I feel most people wouldnít be able to tell which was which.


Alex - I will take your word for it that the ones myself & Sulcata grove have tried may not have been Angie at it's best, but are you saying nobody else has ever said they tasted like cooked carrots?   Thanks.  : )
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They may have been eaten in SW Florida, but they were grown in SE Florida.   ;) ;) ;)

Okay.  Well, if you got them from Richard Campbell, he loves them and was the one who sold everyone on them back in the beginning.
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They may have been eaten in SW Florida, but they were grown in SE Florida.   ;) ;) ;)

Okay.  Well, if you got them from Richard Campbell, he loves them and was the one sold everyone on them back in the beginning.


Sulcata Grove I think got them from Dr. C's boys and possibly another source over multiple seasons.  I got mine from another SE source.  But that is 3 experienced mango tasters over multiple seasons, getting them from different places, all saying the cooked carrot flavor is the dominant flavor in Angie in all the ones we've tried.  We can't all be crazy right?  I have tried Carrie's at every possible stage you can try them and there has never been any carrot or other vegetable flavor.  I know some mango's can vary wildly in flavor by just an extra day on the counter.  I trust people who says it tastes good just wondering what the issues might be?  Before I saw the Sulcata video on Angie, I thought it was just me that thought they tasted like Gerber baby food carrots.  Angie was actually the strongest carrot/sweet potato/acorn squash flavor I've ever detected in any mango I've tried before.

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Never tasted carrots in an Angie. I have heard the same thing about Val-Carrie, which is one of my favorite mangoes, as well.

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Folks,

Are these kesar mangoes? I got these from the local Carrefour in the GCC region. It looks yellow, but it's still hard like hell. It's a small mango-3" in size. Thanks.


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Will milk be made available to us?
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Over my head, Rob.  Crying over spilled milk?  Tell me, nighthawk, have you tasted carrot in Neelam?  Maybe it's a taste buds thing.
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Alex, you said that your customers find Carrie and Angie indistinguishable.  How about you?  Do think Angie is as sweet?  (I don't.)

Yes. Angie has compared very favorably to Carrie for me, though I donít get to eat them as much as I like (they all get sold). Now something to consider is that weather conditions at time of harvest, horticultural practices and harvesting time can all have an impact on a cvs flavor and it may be that Angie is more sensitive to changes in the above.

Iíve found that Indians and Caribbean customers love the Angie and find it a more than acceptable alternative to the Carrie.

If we were to take 5 properly ripened Angie and carries, cut them up and put them on separate unlabeled plates, I feel most people wouldnít be able to tell which was which.


Alex - I will take your word for it that the ones myself & Sulcata grove have tried may not have been Angie at it's best, but are you saying nobody else has ever said they tasted like cooked carrots?   Thanks.  : )

Iíve never tasted carrot in angie. I have in other mangos though (such as Baptiste and improperly picked Mallika).

I donít know if the Welschís like the Carrie flavor or not, but if they donít they are almost guaranteed to dislike Angie.

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Over my head, Rob.  Crying over spilled milk?  Tell me, nighthawk, have you tasted carrot in Neelam?  Maybe it's a taste buds thing.

Never had neelam before, but not prone to detecting carrot flavors. The only thing I have detected carrot in a little bit was Maha Chanoook and one other that I don't recall.  I have heard other people say that MC has a carrot taste to them also.  But the carrot flavor was most prominent in the Angie.  If you watch the Sulcata grove video on Angie they are also are both emphasizing how dominant the carrot flavor is.  The SG family is a bit split on Carrie. They don't love it or hate it, but never thought it tasted like carrot.  Carrie to me has such a classic mango flavor that it seems like the only people that would dislike Carrie would dislike Haden or anything else with a traditional classic mango flavor.
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No, you didin't say that.  Carrie has a traditional classic mango flavor like Haden? :-[
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That is discrediting!
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Will milk be made available to us?

Excuse me, Dick, uh, Rob. You'll find out the answer to that question next mango season.

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Will milk be made available to us?

Excuse me, Dick, uh, Rob. You'll find out the answer to that question next mango season.

Grab some wood there bud.
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Thought I hated Carrie because of texture but Angie came along in a firmer version.

I donít like it either preferring all the ppk family.

Itís like cilantro, some love it but it tastes like soap to others

Neelam is a lot like cilantro



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Folks,

Are these kesar mangoes? I got these from the local Carrefour in the GCC region. It looks yellow, but it's still hard like hell. It's a small mango-3" in size. Thanks.



I do not think these are Kesar,  shape seems to be a bit off (wider ) coloration ,  also noticed a few with a crease/indentation, which I have not seen on any Kesar over here.    the beak is a bit more pointy on the Kesar I am familiar with.  these ones in this picture seem smoother.

Here is a jumbo Kesar,  notice some regular Kesar on the table
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I had not seen a Jumbo Kesar--- very impressive!
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What was the title of this thread again?.?.?.?.?...



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My jumbo kesar is definitely not that big.
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