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Jumbo Sweet Tart
« on: September 11, 2018, 01:08:20 PM »
Introducing Jumbo Sweet tart a sport off my ST tree one kilo




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« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2018, 01:57:18 PM »
Impressive!

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« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2018, 02:05:36 PM »
Yikes! A monster ST. Never saw one that big. You must get a patent on it and get richer than the Zill ops
Congratulations!

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« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2018, 02:09:59 PM »
Suuuuuuuuuuweeet!

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« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2018, 04:23:21 PM »
whoaaa!!!!
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Re: Jumbo Sweet Tart
« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2018, 04:43:55 PM »
I first hand witnessed it last week and I told Frank that there is no way its sweet tart, then we chased the branch and it on same branch as others. it is a true sport.

Also, Frank, that Peach cobbler doesn't look like one as peach cobbler never turns yellow that much.

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« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2018, 04:51:34 PM »
I first hand witnessed it last week and I told Frank that there is no way its sweet tart, then we chased the branch and it on same branch as others. it is a true sport.

Also, Frank, that Peach cobbler doesn't look like one as peach cobbler never turns yellow that much.

Zand, there are a lot of new varieties coming out of California in the coming yrs


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« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2018, 09:09:19 PM »
I first hand witnessed it last week and I told Frank that there is no way its sweet tart, then we chased the branch and it on same branch as others. it is a true sport.

Also, Frank, that Peach cobbler doesn't look like one as peach cobbler never turns yellow that much.

Zand, there are a lot of new varieties coming out of California in the coming yrs


Good to know and good luck. Your dry air and intense sun will be  major factors in being able to grow mangoes that would fail in humid Florida.

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Re: Jumbo Sweet Tart
« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2018, 04:04:58 AM »
Not sure if I should keep pruning the rootstock suckers or let them grow with an eye for the future.

Good stuff

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« Reply #9 on: September 12, 2018, 08:30:51 AM »
Not sure if I should keep pruning the rootstock suckers or let them grow with an eye for the future.

Good stuff

You should probably cut all the rootstock suckers.  The bud sport(s) that they are referring to do not emanate directly from the rootstock.
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Re: Jumbo Sweet Tart
« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2018, 09:53:38 AM »
I had witnessed this mango. It is huge. Reminds me of venus size.

It is possible that ST is a sport.
Also, last year's senyorita was an awesome mango.

U are doing a good job growing your trees.
 

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Re: Jumbo Sweet Tart
« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2018, 10:19:39 AM »
Frank, dont forget to germinate the giant sweet tart seed. it will be interesting.

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Re: Jumbo Sweet Tart
« Reply #12 on: September 12, 2018, 11:31:01 AM »
Any brix readings on ur seedling senyorita?

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« Reply #13 on: September 12, 2018, 11:38:44 AM »
Any brix readings on ur seedling senyorita?

it was 28, frank has not posted yet. also Amarpali was 27.

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« Reply #14 on: September 12, 2018, 11:40:26 AM »
Any brix readings on ur seedling senyorita?

it was 28, frank has not posted yet. also Amarpali was 27.

It was 28 the best mango Ive had all year... beat E4and creme brle

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« Reply #15 on: September 12, 2018, 11:54:55 AM »
Any brix readings on ur seedling senyorita?

it was 28, frank has not posted yet. also Amarpali was 27.

It was 28 the best mango Ive had all year... beat E4and creme brle

I bet as ur senyorita trees matures, flavor will improve. Wow

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« Reply #16 on: September 12, 2018, 12:24:34 PM »
Any brix readings on ur seedling senyorita?

it was 28, frank has not posted yet. also Amarpali was 27.

It was 28 the best mango Ive had all year... beat E4and creme brle

I bet as ur senyorita trees matures, flavor will improve. Wow

Yes I expect. real Amrapali and seorita are both top 10 mangos

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Re: Jumbo Sweet Tart
« Reply #17 on: September 12, 2018, 12:38:36 PM »
I had one amarpali from my yard 3 yrs ago, fruit was amazingly sweet and floral, very unique and brix was 28. that branch eventually died and I am growing it in two other spots, seems to be very slow grower for me.

I also had the opportunity to take one from Frank this year, although fruits were undeveloped, they tasted exceptional. quality of fruit will only get better as it matures.

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Re: Jumbo Sweet Tart
« Reply #18 on: September 13, 2018, 01:42:25 PM »
Best to evaluate the budwood grown out before concluding it is unique. ST is know to vary considerably in size. Sometimes they are fist sized, others are like small melons.

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« Reply #19 on: September 13, 2018, 01:54:47 PM »
What a beauty!

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Re: Jumbo Sweet Tart
« Reply #20 on: September 13, 2018, 01:56:59 PM »
Yah, JF you should graft out a tree and eval it.

Best to evaluate the budwood grown out before concluding it is unique. ST is know to vary considerably in size. Sometimes they are fist sized, others are like small melons.
Jeff  :-)

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« Reply #21 on: September 13, 2018, 02:33:23 PM »
Yah, JF you should graft out a tree and eval it.

Best to evaluate the budwood grown out before concluding it is unique. ST is know to vary considerably in size. Sometimes they are fist sized, others are like small melons.
Jeff
I grafted onto to a Manila rootstock I have here . Ive seem large St in my trees as Aboyami mentions but never a 1 kilo it looks like a harvest moon

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Re: Jumbo Sweet Tart
« Reply #22 on: September 13, 2018, 03:11:13 PM »
Here is a regular ST w a Calostro another phenomena lol


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Re: Jumbo Sweet Tart
« Reply #23 on: September 14, 2018, 07:53:26 AM »
Yah, JF you should graft out a tree and eval it.

Best to evaluate the budwood grown out before concluding it is unique. ST is know to vary considerably in size. Sometimes they are fist sized, others are like small melons.
Jeff
I grafted onto to a Manila rootstock I have here . Ive seem large St in my trees as Aboyami mentions but never a 1 kilo it looks like a harvest moon

You might get unique size ST or you might get  "regression to the mean"   Look that up if you have not heard this expression.  Odds are regression but for sure your graft is worth a try.

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Re: Jumbo Sweet Tart
« Reply #24 on: September 14, 2018, 09:47:12 PM »
High brix 27 very sweet and not as tard as ST excellent mango... monoembronic






 

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