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Annonaceae that are temperate
« on: October 15, 2018, 09:26:45 PM »
What genera are temperate? Other than pawpaw.

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Re: Annonaceae that are temperate
« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2018, 07:55:34 AM »
Oh geez... I'll try to remember this thread when I get home, I have a whole database of this sort of stuff.  :)
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Re: Annonaceae that are temperate
« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2018, 03:48:59 PM »
Alright thanks, the only problem If I do find them is the source of seeds

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Re: Annonaceae that are temperate
« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2018, 04:09:12 PM »
What u got up your sleeve?

I wasn't aware of any temperate annonaceae genera other than Asimina but I'm no expert whatsoever. As vast as the plant kingdom is, i'm likely to be overlooking a lot.

Now, we have some North American native Annona species like Annona glabra but of course it's not temperate (nor desirable for fruit).

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Re: Annonaceae that are temperate
« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2018, 05:20:18 PM »
Awww..

Sorry to report, but I checked my database, and with 177 Annonaceae species in it, not a single one was even close to A. triloba in hardiness  :(  A. triloba's natural range averages a winter low of -4,9C. The next closest I have is Polyalthia cerasoides, but its average winter low is 7,4C, followed by Annona longiflora (8,4C), Annona stenophylla (8,7C), Annona rugulosa (9C), Guatteria carchiana (9,6C; afaik not edible), Xylopia odoratissima (9,7C), and Annona cherimola (10,5C).  So basically you have one standout, and things jump straight to "pretty tropical".

(My data in this regard comes from a program I wrote that crossreferences edible species lists, GBIF habitat data, and IPCC climate data)
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Re: Annonaceae that are temperate
« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2018, 05:23:27 PM »
Awh well. I always wanted to find some tropical looking tree that is not usually planted in gardens that can survive in 7b/8a border.

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Re: Annonaceae that are temperate
« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2018, 05:27:58 PM »
You'll have to look outside of annonaceae, unfortunately!  But feel free to assign me any database tasks you might have  :)
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Re: Annonaceae that are temperate
« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2018, 11:57:31 PM »
Nice to hear about Annona stenophylla cold hardiness. I have a few seedlings they are being planted out in zone 10a. Should have to worry about the a rare frost event.
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« Reply #8 on: October 17, 2018, 07:06:31 AM »
Nice to hear about Annona stenophylla cold hardiness. I have a few seedlings they are being planted out in zone 10a. Should have to worry about the a rare frost event.

I wouldn't call being native to an area with an average winter low of 8,7C cold hardy, but yeah, as far as annonas go, it's native to climates that are on the colder end of the spectrum.  It's not native to as high altitudes as cherimoya (500-1700m vs. 700-2400m) but it's less equatorial and more continental. Its range is densest in highlands in southeast Angola / far east Namibia / northern Botswana / southwestern Zambia, and these areas do get the occasional frost.
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