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Re: Thomasville citrangequat at arboretum UGA, Athens, GA. 11/15/18.
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2018, 05:59:16 PM »
Which is in climate zone 8a.
sure the long hot humid Summers help.

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Re: Thomasville citrangequat at arboretum UGA, Athens, GA. 11/15/18.
« Reply #2 on: December 25, 2018, 06:31:24 PM »


    I wish to have a few seeds or can buy a seedling to grow in Smyrna, GA. Is there anyway that I can obtain some seeds?

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Re: Thomasville citrangequat at arboretum UGA, Athens, GA. 11/15/18.
« Reply #3 on: December 25, 2018, 06:38:08 PM »
There was and probably still is a lot of fruit on those trees at the arboretum.

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Re: Thomasville citrangequat at arboretum UGA, Athens, GA. 11/15/18.
« Reply #4 on: December 25, 2018, 07:31:27 PM »
I am not a student of UGA and of course have no access to the school arboretum. Is there anywhere in GA that sell citrangequat seedling? I have more interest in the leaves of those trees over their fruits.

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Re: Thomasville citrangequat at arboretum UGA, Athens, GA. 11/15/18.
« Reply #5 on: December 26, 2018, 04:13:07 AM »
Lavender 87, I can send you seed from Thomasville, but I don't think it is that hard to find. And it will take up to 20 years for first flowers on a Kumquat-hybrid (not sure, but my Kumquat-seedling flowered this year for its first time ab afte twenty years on a PT rootstock)

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Re: Thomasville citrangequat at arboretum UGA, Athens, GA. 11/15/18.
« Reply #6 on: December 26, 2018, 09:49:08 AM »
The arboretum is open to the public.  It is called "State Botanical Garden of Georgia"

Stan Mckenzie should have plants.  http://mckenzie-farms.com/photo.htm

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Re: Thomasville citrangequat at arboretum UGA, Athens, GA. 11/15/18.
« Reply #7 on: December 26, 2018, 10:58:46 AM »
Zitrusgaertner, thank you for your info. It was hard to find, and I have tried even Amazon, Ebay, but none of them had any clue about this citrangequat. I did not realize that it would take 20 year to fruit; however, I only need their leaves for cooking and blending medicine, most citrus fruits can be bought from most stores in US but not leaves.

  Thank you for your kindness, I will try to search else where to see if I can order a tree, if not I still love to have a seed to try in my area (Atlanta, zone 7b).

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Re: Thomasville citrangequat at arboretum UGA, Athens, GA. 11/15/18.
« Reply #8 on: December 26, 2018, 11:02:16 AM »
hardyvermont, thank you for your useful info. I will try to order 2 citrangequat from that website to experiment in my zone 7 region.

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Re: Thomasville citrangequat at arboretum UGA, Athens, GA. 11/15/18.
« Reply #9 on: December 26, 2018, 12:38:06 PM »
Why do you believe that leaves of Thomasville are so special?
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Re: Thomasville citrangequat at arboretum UGA, Athens, GA. 11/15/18.
« Reply #10 on: December 26, 2018, 12:52:50 PM »
Ilya11, I did not say anything about the specialty of the citrangequat leaves. I just need some types of citrus leaves other than the trifoliate orange for cooking purposes. Unfortunately, there was none survive in my area (Atlanta) zone 7b beside the trifoliate, so I would like to try something difference.

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Re: Thomasville citrangequat at arboretum UGA, Athens, GA. 11/15/18.
« Reply #11 on: December 26, 2018, 01:13:38 PM »

  Does anyone has this tree in GA?

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Re: Thomasville citrangequat at arboretum UGA, Athens, GA. 11/15/18.
« Reply #12 on: December 27, 2018, 04:31:45 PM »
Keraji-Mandarin is hardier than Thomasville (is't it, Ilya) and has very nice smelling leaves (did not eat them)
 

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Re: Thomasville citrangequat at arboretum UGA, Athens, GA. 11/15/18.
« Reply #13 on: December 27, 2018, 08:52:13 PM »
Zitrusgaertner, do you have their seeds?

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Re: Thomasville citrangequat at arboretum UGA, Athens, GA. 11/15/18.
« Reply #14 on: December 27, 2018, 09:04:30 PM »
Lavender 87, I can send you seed from Thomasville, but I don't think it is that hard to find. And it will take up to 20 years for first flowers on a Kumquat-hybrid (not sure, but my Kumquat-seedling flowered this year for its first time ab afte twenty years on a PT rootstock)

Kumquat hybrids are usually the fastest flowering per the literature. I have a seedling Citrangequat that took 5 years from seed, which is not long at all. It might have to do with the heat units.

Lavender87, I have a few seeds that have sprouted...

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Re: Thomasville citrangequat at arboretum UGA, Athens, GA. 11/15/18.
« Reply #15 on: December 27, 2018, 11:34:13 PM »
Kumquat hybrids are usually the fastest flowering per the literature. I have a seedling Citrangequat that took 5 years from seed, which is not long at all. It might have to do with the heat units.

Lavender87, I have a few seeds that have sprouted...

Manfromyard, do you have citrangequat seedlings for sale?

 I used to grow lemon from seeds in Vietnam, a tropical region, and it take about 3 years to fruit, still don't know why people claimed that it take 20 years for its first flowering?? I would like to get several 5 years old seedlings if you have a lot extra for sale. And by the way, what did you mean by saying "it might have to do with the heat units"?

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Re: Thomasville citrangequat at arboretum UGA, Athens, GA. 11/15/18.
« Reply #16 on: December 28, 2018, 01:54:13 PM »
I was talking about my experience. And I ws talking about Kumquat. Might be that Citrangquat flowers earlier. But if you go far leaves I don't know why you are looking for Thomasville.

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Re: Thomasville citrangequat at arboretum UGA, Athens, GA. 11/15/18.
« Reply #17 on: December 28, 2018, 06:24:31 PM »
The arboretum is open to the public.  It is called "State Botanical Garden of Georgia"

Stan Mckenzie should have plants.  http://mckenzie-farms.com/photo.htm



   I contacted Stan, he said that citrangequat is currently out of stock. I have to wait at least 1 year for him to propagate several.

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Re: Thomasville citrangequat at arboretum UGA, Athens, GA. 11/15/18.
« Reply #18 on: December 28, 2018, 08:51:02 PM »
Heat units are just a measure of how hot it gets. The southeast and Northwest are classified as the same USDA zone in some parts. You have 7a to 8b in both sports. But it gets hotter for longer in the southeast. That added energy allows plants to grow faster and fruit to ripen more quickly.

And I don't have a lot of old seedlings. These are basically the ones from this pfall. They just started.

I can maybe give you 1 from last season. You could grow it out fro a year or 2, then plant outside..

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Re: Thomasville citrangequat at arboretum UGA, Athens, GA. 11/15/18.
« Reply #19 on: December 28, 2018, 10:02:59 PM »
Heat units are just a measure of how hot it gets. The southeast and Northwest are classified as the same USDA zone in some parts. You have 7a to 8b in both sports. But it gets hotter for longer in the southeast. That added energy allows plants to grow faster and fruit to ripen more quickly.

And I don't have a lot of old seedlings. These are basically the ones from this pfall. They just started.

I can maybe give you 1 from last season. You could grow it out fro a year or 2, then plant outside..

 I'd appreciate it very much if you can pass to me one or 2. I can stop by your location whenever you're ready.

  Thanks

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Re: Thomasville citrangequat at arboretum UGA, Athens, GA. 11/15/18.
« Reply #20 on: December 30, 2018, 10:50:31 AM »
Please let me know the price and shipping cost, or I can stop by to pick it up.

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Re: Thomasville citrangequat at arboretum UGA, Athens, GA. 11/15/18.
« Reply #21 on: December 31, 2018, 08:59:11 AM »
I was talking about my experience. And I ws talking about Kumquat. Might be that Citrangquat flowers earlier. But if you go far leaves I don't know why you are looking for Thomasville.


  There was nothing special about citrangequat leaves, but I would like to grow a reliable tree that can be leaves harvested anytime of the year, of course except for a few months of winter. Moreover, I also wanna see how their fruits taste.

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Re: Thomasville citrangequat at arboretum UGA, Athens, GA. 11/15/18.
« Reply #22 on: December 31, 2018, 04:18:31 PM »
Keraji. Much better than Thomasville. Tastes better, earlier ripe, better hardyness.

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Re: Thomasville citrangequat at arboretum UGA, Athens, GA. 11/15/18.
« Reply #23 on: December 31, 2018, 06:15:48 PM »
Keraji. Much better than Thomasville. Tastes better, earlier ripe, better hardyness.

  Oh really. I have never heard of Keraji Citrus. I did a quick search and found very little info about it. Some people claimed that they are sweet and cold hardy, but no one mentioned how cold it could withstand. Thank you so much for the info.

   By the way, do you have their seeds? Can I buy some?

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Re: Thomasville citrangequat at arboretum UGA, Athens, GA. 11/15/18.
« Reply #24 on: January 01, 2019, 08:38:00 AM »
  I found some extra info about keraji hardiness. People claimed that it could withstand a freezing cold down to 12F which is not reliable in zone 7b/8a in GA. The southeastern part of the US is not that cold but pretty much a horible zone for its unstable winter temprature. in 1985, on the Jan-21st, it was recorded at -8F. And the record low for GA according to Wiki was -29F. No one can predict an upcoming dead winter.

  I have always been wishing an opportunity to move away from Atlanta. I used to live in Sanjose, LA in CA and Bradenton in FL. Only 3 states so far, Atlanta seemed to be the worst.
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