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Please identify this fruit
« on: October 15, 2012, 10:53:38 PM »
I have a fruit tree in my garden but don't know what it is. Some photos are here http://world-crops.com/unknown-fruit/. Who knows what it is?

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Re: Please identify this fruit
« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2012, 10:58:03 PM »
It looks like Syzygium jambos to me.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syzygium_jambos

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« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2012, 11:29:52 PM »
Thailand has some nice cultivars of this, one I tried was deep purple and named something sounding like "champoo ma miao"
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« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2012, 02:12:22 AM »
Looks like S. jambos to me too, although I find the shape of the fruit odd.  The ones I have seen have all been a bit elongated.

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« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2012, 07:42:23 AM »
Hi hbijlmakers,

That fruit is Rose apple-Syzygium jambos. The flesh has a rose type smell.
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« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2012, 09:24:16 PM »
Yep , rose apple , worthless fruit , just good to put some on your nightstand for a few nights for the perfume.
Get rid of it before it gets too big . Lots of wonderful fruit trees you can replace it with where you are located.

Lots of these growing wild here in my area in Mexico , I don't understand why somebody brought and planted these ....

You got the axe  ' BIJL ' in your name already ....
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« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2012, 07:14:20 AM »
Yep , rose apple , worthless fruit , just good to put some on your nightstand for a few nights for the perfume.
Get rid of it before it gets too big . Lots of wonderful fruit trees you can replace it with where you are located.

Lots of these growing wild here in my area in Mexico , I don't understand why somebody brought and planted these ....

You got the axe  ' BIJL ' in your name already ....

You might change your mind if you try some of the nice Thai cultivars.
What's that got to do with Jose Andres $10 brussel sprouts?

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« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2012, 07:35:14 AM »
Yep , rose apple , worthless fruit , just good to put some on your nightstand for a few nights for the perfume.
Get rid of it before it gets too big . Lots of wonderful fruit trees you can replace it with where you are located.

Lots of these growing wild here in my area in Mexico , I don't understand why somebody brought and planted these ....

You got the axe  ' BIJL ' in your name already ....

You might change your mind if you try some of the nice Thai cultivars.

I find them quite nice...though, the first time, the fruit was off putting, with the incense type smell ;)
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« Reply #8 on: October 17, 2012, 09:14:31 AM »
If you would like to eat the smell of roses this fruit makes a great liqueur.
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« Reply #9 on: October 17, 2012, 07:21:17 PM »

You might change your mind if you try some of the nice Thai cultivars.

I've never seen any of the nice Thai cultivars. Do you have any more info on them? Names or descriptions maybe?

Edit: Upon doing some research, I can't find any information on any cultivars. PROSEA even says "There are no cultivars". If there are better selections that you've had in Thailand I would like to learn about them.
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« Reply #10 on: October 17, 2012, 11:33:07 PM »
Thanks to all for identifying it as Rose apple.  :D
The fruits are actually quite nice, so I am happy to keep it in my garden.

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« Reply #11 on: October 18, 2012, 12:48:01 AM »
I disagree with you Luc, rose apple is in my opinion a wonderful tasting fruit. I think i'm in good company as it has been a revered fruit for thousands of years. For example, t's known to have been a favorite fruit of the Buddha around 600 B.C., along with mangos. The problem with rose apple in Hawaii is that it is/was extremely invasive and weedy, like guava, and also like guava it always gets stung by fruit flies and has maggots inside. I say "was" weedy because the dreaded guava rust, Puccini, loves rose apple and it was the first plant to succumb to it. It's pretty much history for that fruit in Hawaii.
BTW, i'm in land of rose apples right now: India.
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« Reply #12 on: October 18, 2012, 01:01:58 AM »
I also find rose apple pretty tasty! I have two trees, very fast growers...

Oscar, don't forget to take pictures ;) Are you collecting plant material?

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« Reply #13 on: October 18, 2012, 01:35:09 AM »
I also find rose apple pretty tasty! I have two trees, very fast growers...

Oscar, don't forget to take pictures ;) Are you collecting plant material?

Not really a plant collecting trip, but i can never help myself. I see a plant i collect it!  ;)
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« Reply #14 on: October 18, 2012, 02:12:29 PM »
Not really a plant collecting trip, but i can never help myself. I see a plant i collect it!  ;)

LOL... amigo, I think I know that story..  ;D

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« Reply #15 on: October 18, 2012, 05:19:40 PM »
Yes Oscar we want some India topics!
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« Reply #16 on: October 19, 2012, 01:40:49 PM »

You might change your mind if you try some of the nice Thai cultivars.

I've never seen any of the nice Thai cultivars. Do you have any more info on them? Names or descriptions maybe?

Edit: Upon doing some research, I can't find any information on any cultivars. PROSEA even says "There are no cultivars". If there are better selections that you've had in Thailand I would like to learn about them.

I've eaten nice ones in Bangkok.  Not sure if "Champoo ma miao" (my transliteration and probably way off) is a cultivar or group of cultivars.  We need some Thai people to pipe in here (is Kukiat a member of this list... he would know).  I was so voracious that I ate up stuff without taking pictures.
What's that got to do with Jose Andres $10 brussel sprouts?

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« Reply #17 on: October 19, 2012, 03:40:28 PM »

I've eaten nice ones in Bangkok.  Not sure if "Champoo ma miao" (my transliteration and probably way off) is a cultivar or group of cultivars.  We need some Thai people to pipe in here (is Kukiat a member of this list... he would know).  I was so voracious that I ate up stuff without taking pictures.
Based on your description, I think you may be referring to a different Syzygium species and not S. jambos.

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« Reply #18 on: October 19, 2012, 04:01:42 PM »
I also find rose apple pretty tasty! I have two trees, very fast growers...

Oscar, don't forget to take pictures ;) Are you collecting plant material?

Not really a plant collecting trip, but i can never help myself. I see a plant i collect it!  ;)

Not sure if Phalsa (Grewia asiatica) fruit is still in season, but after reading up on it. It sounds like a great fruit to seek out superior selections in India. How does Phalsa taste for you Oscar?
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« Reply #19 on: October 20, 2012, 03:02:30 PM »
Its surprising how popular they are in india and pakistan. Tasty but in our world second class. Often grown as an intercrop while the bigger main fruit tree come into production e.g. mango

I do not believe there are any known cultivars. Of course anyone is free to name a seedling they like and call it a cultivar and then others will go got to have that.
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« Reply #20 on: October 30, 2012, 10:36:17 AM »
I also find rose apple pretty tasty! I have two trees, very fast growers...

Oscar, don't forget to take pictures ;) Are you collecting plant material?

Not really a plant collecting trip, but i can never help myself. I see a plant i collect it!  ;)

Not sure if Phalsa (Grewia asiatica) fruit is still in season, but after reading up on it. It sounds like a great fruit to seek out superior selections in India. How does Phalsa taste for you Oscar?

Have had fruiting phalsa in Hawaii for many year. Agree with Recher it is second class fruit. In conversation with Dr. Parmar from India, who wrote his PhD on this fruit, it is very popular in India, but mostly as a juice. It's said to be good for pregnant and fetches a high price. I've never tried the juice. It's extremely work intensive to pick as they fruit a little at a time over a long period. Don't think this fruit will ever become very popular outside of India, unless cultivars are found that are much higher quality.
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« Reply #21 on: October 30, 2012, 10:44:01 AM »
Have had fruiting phalsa in Hawaii for many year. Agree with Recher it is second class fruit. In conversation with Dr. Parmar from India, who wrote his PhD on this fruit, it is very popular in India, but mostly as a juice. It's said to be good for pregnant and fetches a high price. I've never tried the juice. It's extremely work intensive to pick as they fruit a little at a time over a long period. Don't think this fruit will ever become very popular outside of India, unless cultivars are found that are much higher quality.

Most of the people I've met from the part of India where it grows say it is their favorite fruit.  So I get the feeling it is a matter of personal taste (since you two aren't the first to give it a lower raiting).  May really appeal to some people and not others.

There is a place in Georgia where they are being grown and bred.  The guy growing them is doing research trying to make them more cold hardy.  Interestingly he found the TARS specimines to be lower quality and started with some he took from India.
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« Reply #22 on: October 30, 2012, 10:45:08 AM »

I've eaten nice ones in Bangkok.  Not sure if "Champoo ma miao" (my transliteration and probably way off) is a cultivar or group of cultivars.  We need some Thai people to pipe in here (is Kukiat a member of this list... he would know).  I was so voracious that I ate up stuff without taking pictures.
Based on your description, I think you may be referring to a different Syzygium species and not S. jambos.

Possible.  I thought that was rose apple, all I had was the Thai name.
What's that got to do with Jose Andres $10 brussel sprouts?

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« Reply #23 on: October 30, 2012, 10:51:36 AM »
For USA i think phalsa has more promise as an ornamental plant. It is a very attractive plant, especailly when it is flowering, and it is very easy to grow.
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