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Best Persimmon tree to buy
« on: December 04, 2018, 09:45:24 AM »
Hi, all.  I am planning on planting a Asian persimmon this winter.  I am looking at Fuyu types, but am confused.  I want a large flavorful fruit that in non astringent.  Upon reading descriptions, it depends on where you read as to which is best  I was thinking about getting the Hana Fuyu.   I have only tasted Fuyu. Do any of you have a favorite?  Please help me decide, I need to get my order in.

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Re: Best Persimmon tree to buy
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2018, 09:24:31 AM »
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  I want a large flavorful fruit that in non astringent.


If you could find rojo brillante in the USA that will be a great cultivar to have. The fruit is large and non astringent.

see the video



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Re: Best Persimmon tree to buy
« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2018, 10:00:10 AM »
Thank you for your reply, EvilFruit.  The video was awesome.  Now to try to find one on my side of the pond.

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Re: Best Persimmon tree to buy
« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2018, 11:32:26 AM »
My issue with non-astringent persimmons is they are NOT flavorful, just sweet.
By contrast, even wild American Persimmons have an amazing, complex flavor when past the astringent stage.

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Re: Best Persimmon tree to buy
« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2018, 12:53:29 PM »
I grew up eating wild persimmons.  I like them very much.  I have only recently tasted a Fuyu and found it to be flavorful and sweet, though not as complex as the wild ones.  I did like the texture too.

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Re: Best Persimmon tree to buy
« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2018, 01:19:08 PM »
Cool!
yeah i have not tasted a LOT of non-astringent types, so I'm no expert.

What I said above is just my current position :)   Everyone has their own tastes for sure!

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Re: Best Persimmon tree to buy
« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2018, 08:40:59 AM »
Here in Europe, specialized nurseries sell tens of cultivars, common nurseries sell few basic japanese persimons (d. kaki) like:

Hana Fuyu
Giant Fuyu
Vainiglia
Tipo
Rojo Brillante

sometimes Jiro, or Cioccolatino.

I have Hana Fuyu and Tipo in greenhouse, this year I bought Cioccolatino, which is very good pollinator. Here in zone 6 it is lottery to grow d. kaki outdoor, This is why those, who want to grow kaki outdoor are focusing on crosses of japan persimmon and american persimmon, which are more frost hardy like

Nikitaīs Gift (D. Kaki x Roseyanka)
Roseyanka (D. Kaki x D. Virginiana)

And many others ussualy breeded in Ukraine.

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Re: Best Persimmon tree to buy
« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2018, 10:29:59 AM »
Prok is a cold hardy variety that is well regarded but itís astringent.

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Re: Best Persimmon tree to buy
« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2018, 12:59:17 PM »
Rojo Brilliante looks intriguing, but may be impossible to find here in the states.  Would Giombo be a good alternative for a good astringent variety?


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Re: Best Persimmon tree to buy
« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2018, 01:27:45 PM »
Or perhaps Maekawa Jiro .


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Re: Best Persimmon tree to buy
« Reply #10 on: December 10, 2018, 10:36:19 PM »
Rojo Brilliante looks intriguing, but may be impossible to find here in the states.  Would Giombo be a good alternative for a good astringent variety?


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If you don't mind grafting message one of these guys:
https://growingfruit.org/t/rojo-brillante-persimmons/11575/18

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Re: Best Persimmon tree to buy
« Reply #11 on: December 11, 2018, 03:07:01 AM »
I can recommend Hana Fuyu, heavy bearer, sweet, no need pollinator.






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Re: Best Persimmon tree to buy
« Reply #12 on: December 11, 2018, 01:53:34 PM »
Thanks, forumfool.  I need to get a tree or two to have something to graft to first.

Radoslav, thanks for the recommendation.  I have about decided on Hana Fuyu for my non astringent.  Now to find a great astringent one.  I'm thinking of Giombo, and perhaps graft a Rojo Brilliante later.

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