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Multi-grafted Jaboticabas
« on: February 18, 2019, 09:23:15 PM »
Hi all, I have recently grafted a bunch of Jaboticabas (about 10 varieties) onto 5 different rootstocks and am interested to hear others experience of how multi-grafted trees go in the medium to long term.

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Re: Multi-grafted Jaboticabas
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2019, 09:53:26 AM »
Iím not sure how they are doing long term but here is a discussion on it.
http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=1898.100
Im creating some multigraft Jaboticabas myself and would love to see pictures or older multigraft trees.

Iíve learned so much from Adam and the trees I got from him are amazing. His grafted Jaboticabas trees encourage early fruiting. Selection of rootstock is a very important factor. Some rootstocks like the red Hybrid grow very well in different soils but tend to sucker a lot which can cause more work in the future by having to constantly remove the suckers.

Jaboticabas with multiple rootstocks seems to also promote early fruiting.

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Re: Multi-grafted Jaboticabas
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2019, 02:34:40 PM »
Thanks for your response Simon! I have a Sabara with 2 rootstocks, still only small but growing about twice as fast as single.
Still early days for me, oldest grafts a bit over a year old, most much more recent and so far iím finding grafts onto Grimal are advancing way faster than grafts on Sabara. It will be interesting to watch their progress!

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Re: Multi-grafted Jaboticabas
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2019, 08:53:00 AM »
I have had some success grafting onto a mature rootstock. It seems to be the fastest way to get fruit. The main learning points for me have been:
1 Graft as close to the trunk as you can as opposed to the end of a branch.
2 Lower branches will not grow as vigorously as higher branches
3 Whatever you graft on the apex/top of the tree will grow much faster than the rest of the tree and is likely to take over, but may be slow to fruit.
4 Use mature scions if possible

The fastest I have seen a scion fruit is about a year after grafting onto a mature rootstock.

This tree has about 15 varieties grafted onto it. I started this project as a way to collect more varieties than had room for and now that I have room, it serves as a bit of an experiment and source of fruit and seeds.
 

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Re: Multi-grafted Jaboticabas
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2019, 08:56:13 AM »
I would recommend limiting the number of varieties to about three, trying to get varieties that have similar growth rates. I have some trees that have much faster varieties that take over and need to be managed regularly to keep them from dominating the tree.
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Re: Multi-grafted Jaboticabas
« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2019, 10:15:16 PM »
John, would you be so kind as to provide a guide as to which jabo varieties are faster growing and which grow more slowly? I'm not the best at scion selection for this purpose.

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Re: Multi-grafted Jaboticabas
« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2019, 11:31:59 PM »
There are a lot of varieties do I don't think I could make a comprehensive list, but faster growing varieties include: Red, Trunciflora, paulista, and slower varieties are White (aureana), grimal, caipirinha. Different phitrantha varieties can be slow or fast growing.

What varieties are you considering going with? 
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Re: Multi-grafted Jaboticabas
« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2019, 01:02:52 AM »
Here are my grafted jaboticabas on a sabara as rootstock which i got from adam almost 2 years ago now...

All of these i planted in a 15 gal using 100% dirt..

Coronata - restinga


 
Grimal

 
3in1 (aureana, restinga,grimal)


Possible grimal swelling buds on 3in1..



Sabara i got from lynn



As time passes by, from dirt it became porous soil after infusing them with compost tea, organic ferts, coffee grounds &leftover fruits/ veggie...

I have more red jabos, esalq,escarlate,blue,yellow jabo not in photos but r growing well with initial dirt.

They have experienced 122f & 27f with no problems.
« Last Edit: February 23, 2019, 01:09:02 AM by gozp »

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Re: Multi-grafted Jaboticabas
« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2019, 01:29:47 PM »
PCG,

nice trees!!

definitely blooms coming on that grimal scion you posted pics of...

looks like Grimal is also winning the race on your cocktail tree, but seems like not by much, the growth rate is pretty evenly matched...the tree looks well balanced.

thanks for sharing pics, they look super happy.

good investment that will pay dividends  ;D

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Re: Multi-grafted Jaboticabas
« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2019, 06:13:21 PM »
PCG,

nice trees!!

definitely blooms coming on that grimal scion you posted pics of...

looks like Grimal is also winning the race on your cocktail tree, but seems like not by much, the growth rate is pretty evenly matched...the tree looks well balanced.

thanks for sharing pics, they look super happy.

good investment that will pay dividends  ;D

Yep from professor jabo man 101.

Thanks again, adam.


 

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