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Tiny dragon flying dragon trifoliate
« on: February 24, 2019, 11:51:22 AM »
Anyone out there growing this one?

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Re: Tiny dragon flying dragon trifoliate
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2019, 01:03:42 PM »
Is “Tiny dragon” a specific cultivar/genotype?  Never heard of it until now.  You have any more information about it?

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Re: Tiny dragon flying dragon trifoliate
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2019, 02:17:47 PM »
I haven't heard of it either but I have a couple of FD seedlings that are much tinier than my other seedlings (also FD).

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Re: Tiny dragon flying dragon trifoliate
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2019, 06:42:08 PM »
That is a cute tree. You should try to bonsai it

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Re: Tiny dragon flying dragon trifoliate
« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2019, 04:13:12 AM »
It could be a tetraploid.

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Re: Tiny dragon flying dragon trifoliate
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2019, 09:14:26 AM »
I had several seedlings like this one. Usually they stay like that. Especially seedlings from shop bought fruits have shown often this dwarfism. I wonder if it might be due chemical treatment. But there must be an other explanation for this on Poncirus.

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Re: Tiny dragon flying dragon trifoliate
« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2019, 12:06:59 PM »
It is probably what is called "rosette-type" seedlings
https://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/jjshs/74/3/74_3_189/_pdf
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Re: Tiny dragon flying dragon trifoliate
« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2019, 01:13:23 PM »
Is “Tiny dragon” a specific cultivar/genotype?  Never heard of it until now.  You have any more information about it?

I imagine it is a bud sport, way more contorted and smaller.

https://flic.kr/p/24jnrwr
« Last Edit: February 25, 2019, 01:16:46 PM by mrtexas »

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Re: Tiny dragon flying dragon trifoliate
« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2019, 07:16:41 PM »
Is it a more dwarfing rootstock?

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Re: Tiny dragon flying dragon trifoliate
« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2019, 04:41:20 AM »
I found this link: https://mrmaple.com/products/buy-poncirus-trifoliata-tiny-dragon-dwarf-contorted-hardy-orange

It says:
'TIny Dragon'  is a dwarf contorted hardy orange with thin thread-like leaves. The branching is even more contorted than 'Flying Dragons' and is much slower in its growth.Ted Stephens and Rick Crowder found this hardy orange at a garden center in Japan as they were leaving Nagoya headed toward Gifu. While Ted ended up calling this selection 'Baby Dragon', Rick ended up calling this tree 'Tiny Dragon'. Either way, this dwarf contorted hardy orange stays small and is a great candidate for growing in a fairy garden or container. 'Tiny Dragon' may reach 4 ft by 4 ft in 15 years.
The fruit on 'TIny Dragon' is rare but tastes quite tart, similar to a lemon. The fruit of this species is often used in making marmalade. 


So mine is not the Tiny Dragon, just tiny 8). Ilya, you are most certainly correct in assuming it is the rosette-type. Because apart from having extremely short internordes, it is also supposed to have thick roots, which, in fact, it does have.
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Re: Tiny dragon flying dragon trifoliate
« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2019, 07:32:21 AM »
> It is probably what is called "rosette-type" seedlings
Very smart, as usual!

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Re: Tiny dragon flying dragon trifoliate
« Reply #11 on: February 26, 2019, 12:45:28 PM »
Nice find.   In my greenhouse I have space for only ~15 in-ground trees.   There are a handful of trees that I want to keep in containers also, either because they are curiousities (buddha's hand, sunquat, miracle berry) or beause I can't consume a ton of their fruit (lemon & lime).  I was wondering how to keep them in check, and grafting the citrus onto an extra-dwarfing rootstock seems like a good choice.  Though now that I think about it, I'm not sure lemons & limes are compatible with trifoliate.  I'll check the chart before i go grafting.

 

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