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Clean Shinanui Mandarin Budwood sources
« on: April 03, 2019, 02:29:10 PM »
Has anyone found a source for clean / certified disease free Shiranui (Dekopon, Sumo) Mandarin budwood?

I have checked CCPP off and on and they keep saying Temporarily Unavailable. And from what I gather, many people are interested in the CCPP budwood for Shiranui and can't get it.

Are there any other sources? What about the USDA, does their citrus repository have Shiranui?
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Re: Clean Shinanui Mandarin Budwood sources
« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2019, 02:44:38 PM »
Have you tried Dekopon before?

(I find them to be very sweet and overly rich, almost slight mango flavor, but makes a great snack food for a paper bag lunch, kind of like an orange that is easier to peel. Personally I still prefer Shasta Gold though)
« Last Edit: April 03, 2019, 02:48:55 PM by SoCal2warm »

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Re: Clean Shinanui Mandarin Budwood sources
« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2019, 05:35:23 PM »
Mark in Texas can tell you about the citrus bureau there. They get it from CCPP and both CCPP and they tack on a nice surcharge. $150 budwood.

Someone contacted CCPP recently and told me they will have it again in June.

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Re: Clean Shinanui Mandarin Budwood sources
« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2019, 05:55:11 PM »
Have you tried Dekopon before?

(I find them to be very sweet and overly rich, almost slight mango flavor, but makes a great snack food for a paper bag lunch, kind of like an orange that is easier to peel. Personally I still prefer Shasta Gold though)

I have. I really love them. I normally like a lot of acid to balance the sweetness in my citrus. But like you mention, the flavor is so intense and rich. I can only eat one at a time, but I do enjoy them a lot.

I have a lot of other Mandarins growing that I have grafted onto my trees and I just want to add Shiranui to the collection.
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Re: Clean Shinanui Mandarin Budwood sources
« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2019, 05:55:32 PM »
Mark in Texas can tell you about the citrus bureau there. They get it from CCPP and both CCPP and they tack on a nice surcharge. $150 budwood.

Someone contacted CCPP recently and told me they will have it again in June.

Cool, thanks Fang!
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Re: Clean Shinanui Mandarin Budwood sources
« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2019, 12:56:37 PM »
Mark in Texas can tell you about the citrus bureau there. They get it from CCPP and both CCPP and they tack on a nice surcharge. $150 budwood.

Someone contacted CCPP recently and told me they will have it again in June.

The Texas budwood bureau got me some from Florida, CCPP didn't have it available. Cost me
$250 for 20 buds including service fee/shipping/buds

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Re: Clean Shinanui Mandarin Budwood sources
« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2019, 12:20:54 AM »
Oops. It's mrtexas I was talking about. I get people confused.

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Re: Clean Shinanui Mandarin Budwood sources
« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2019, 02:56:16 PM »
Have you tried Dekopon before?

(I find them to be very sweet and overly rich, almost slight mango flavor, but makes a great snack food for a paper bag lunch, kind of like an orange that is easier to peel. Personally I still prefer Shasta Gold though)

SoCal2warm,

Where did you find the budwood for your Shasta Gold?

I have been reading about it and based on descriptions you have posted on TFF and others comments on other forums it sounds like one that I want to try.

UCR has it in their collection: https://citrusvariety.ucr.edu/citrus/tde2.html

However, the don't offer it on the CCPP budwood order page. If I search the page for 'Shasta' or 'tde2' or '490' (the UCR VI for Shasta Gold is 490) it is not listed as something I can order budwood from.

I have seen a few nurseries online that sell the trees, but they don't ship to AZ.
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Re: Clean Shinanui Mandarin Budwood sources
« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2019, 03:29:15 PM »

Where did you find the budwood for your Shasta Gold?

I have been reading about it and based on descriptions you have posted on TFF and others comments on other forums it sounds like one that I want to try.

UCR has it in their collection: https://citrusvariety.ucr.edu/citrus/tde2.html

However, the don't offer it on the CCPP budwood order page. If I search the page for 'Shasta' or 'tde2' or '490' (the UCR VI for Shasta Gold is 490) it is not listed as something I can order budwood from.

I have seen a few nurseries online that sell the trees, but they don't ship to AZ.

CCPP just updated their website.  I think this is the old form: https://ccpp.ucr.edu/budwood/forms/2013-Forms/ScreenhouseFaxOrderForm.pdf

If you look at the (*) it appears you need a license agreement for the TDE budwood. I don't know how that works but perhaps shoot them an email.
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Re: Clean Shinanui Mandarin Budwood sources
« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2019, 04:12:12 PM »

Where did you find the budwood for your Shasta Gold?

I have been reading about it and based on descriptions you have posted on TFF and others comments on other forums it sounds like one that I want to try.

UCR has it in their collection: https://citrusvariety.ucr.edu/citrus/tde2.html

However, the don't offer it on the CCPP budwood order page. If I search the page for 'Shasta' or 'tde2' or '490' (the UCR VI for Shasta Gold is 490) it is not listed as something I can order budwood from.

I have seen a few nurseries online that sell the trees, but they don't ship to AZ.

CCPP just updated their website.  I think this is the old form: https://ccpp.ucr.edu/budwood/forms/2013-Forms/ScreenhouseFaxOrderForm.pdf

If you look at the (*) it appears you need a license agreement for the TDE budwood. I don't know how that works but perhaps shoot them an email.

Vail,

Thanks. Yeah I noticed they update the CCPP ordering site between last month and this month.
Ahhhh, that makes sense. I did not know that Shasta Gold was a patented and/or licensed variety. So I bet that I (home grower) can't get access to it through their repository.
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Re: Clean Shinanui Mandarin Budwood sources
« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2019, 07:39:05 PM »
I tried and was said no to Shasta, Yosemite, and Tahoe gold varieties. only bet is to buy trees

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Re: Clean Shinanui Mandarin Budwood sources
« Reply #11 on: April 15, 2019, 08:42:17 PM »
I tried and was said no to Shasta, Yosemite, and Tahoe gold varieties. only bet is to buy trees

Cool, thanks behl. Yep, I agree.

Problem is that none of the AZ nurseries (that I could find at least. Sunset is the one that supplies most of the citrus around here) propagates them and any place online that has them won't ship to AZ.
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