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Eugenia Mystery Plant
« on: April 05, 2019, 02:08:09 AM »
I received this plant in a shipment of Cherry of the Rio Grandes from Adam at Flying Fox a couple of years ago as a bonus plant.
At first I thought it was a COTRG... but it began to show slightly different physical characteristics.
Salmony colors in the new growth... less dark green that the other COTRG plants.
It's a beautiful tree and fast growing as well.
I am hoping it is Eugenia calycina.

It started blooming a couple of weeks ago... here are a few photos I shot today:
















Let me know if you recognize this mystery plant.
Thanks.

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Re: Eugenia Mystery Plant
« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2019, 08:49:11 AM »
Eugenia florida?
« Last Edit: April 06, 2019, 12:12:06 PM by Chandramohan »

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Re: Eugenia Mystery Plant
« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2019, 05:03:24 PM »

If not Eugenia calycina, I was hoping for some mutant Rio Grande hybrid with instant healing and retractable claws.
And good fruit too!

Kevin

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Re: Eugenia Mystery Plant
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2019, 12:42:45 PM »
Here's a shot I took this morning of the growing fruit.
Looking more like a COTRG to me.
But as I've never actually seen one in person... Was hoping for some comment from the more experienced growers.
Certainly has nice long red sepals.

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Re: Eugenia Mystery Plant ID Help Please!
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2019, 03:28:24 PM »
It appears to be putting a lot of buds.
I am hopeful...

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Re: Eugenia Mystery Plant ID Help Please!
« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2019, 05:48:27 PM »
My COR has produced about 100 fruits sofar and their isn't any salmony colors in the new leaves or
flowers? COR are variable? It wont be long and you will have fruit to sample

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Re: Eugenia Mystery Plant ID Help Please!
« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2019, 06:06:26 PM »
Cricket Dude,
You're growing Eugenia calycina "Nelita" from Miguel in Portugal ... does this plant look anything like that?
I have around a dozen "Rios" from several different sources and they are all dark green... not like this one.
Thanks for the input!

Kevin
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Re: Eugenia Mystery Plant ID Help Please!
« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2019, 06:41:14 PM »
No the calycina didn't have salmon colored sepal leaves or new growth.



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Re: Eugenia Mystery Plant ID Help Please!
« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2019, 08:28:04 PM »
it's probably calycina...smell the flowers, they are my favorite

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Re: Eugenia Mystery Plant ID Help Please!
« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2019, 10:08:54 PM »
Adam,
I hope so...
I have 5 others I grew from seed... but they are much more slow growing.
Another thing I noticed... the stems of the blooms and fruits are almost purple.

I will check out the bloom aroma tomorrow.
Thanks.

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Re: Eugenia Mystery Plant ID Help Please!
« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2019, 10:37:38 PM »
Photos of the red leaves:







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Re: Eugenia Mystery Plant
« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2019, 01:35:52 AM »
Updated fruit photo:




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Re: Eugenia Mystery Plant
« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2019, 02:41:10 PM »
Still blooming with more blooms to come:




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Re: Eugenia Mystery Plant
« Reply #13 on: June 21, 2019, 11:08:08 PM »
Ripe Fruit:



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Re: Eugenia Mystery Plant
« Reply #14 on: June 22, 2019, 12:34:02 PM »
and it tastes like?
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Re: Eugenia Mystery Plant
« Reply #15 on: June 22, 2019, 12:40:43 PM »
From my meager experience... very similar taste to Cherry of the Rio Grande.
The fruit is larger than the COTRG specimen I had fruiting.
Here's COTRG by comparison:





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Re: Eugenia Mystery Plant
« Reply #16 on: June 23, 2019, 03:20:24 PM »
[size=85]Sunset Zone: 21 USDA Zone: 10a AHS Heat Zone: 6-7[/size]

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Re: Eugenia Mystery Plant
« Reply #17 on: June 24, 2019, 10:35:45 AM »
I'm no expert... But Eugenia Punicifolia does not appear to have the very long sepals that this mystery plant has.
Stubby looking sepals like Cedar Bay Cherry.

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Re: Eugenia Mystery Plant
« Reply #18 on: June 24, 2019, 02:53:34 PM »
Hmmm... true. Maybe it is a naturally occurring hybrid between a cotrg and another eugenia? Maybe just an interesting cotrg showing genetic diversity. Do you know if it was grown from seed?
[size=85]Sunset Zone: 21 USDA Zone: 10a AHS Heat Zone: 6-7[/size]

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Re: Eugenia Mystery Plant
« Reply #19 on: June 24, 2019, 09:29:49 PM »
I am positive it is from seed.
I am leaning toward your idea of mutant/random genetic variation of Cherry of the Rio Grande.

kj

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Re: Eugenia Mystery Plant
« Reply #20 on: June 24, 2019, 09:56:15 PM »
You should do some air layering of that baby... that is a nice chunky cotrg, plus I love that red new growth.
Put me on your list 😀
[size=85]Sunset Zone: 21 USDA Zone: 10a AHS Heat Zone: 6-7[/size]

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Re: Eugenia Mystery Plant
« Reply #21 on: June 25, 2019, 09:33:01 AM »
Yes the red growth is very appealing
Also... Since I have so many Cherry of the Rio Grande seedlings right now I though I might try my hand at grafting a few.

kj
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« Last Edit: June 27, 2019, 03:50:16 PM by So_Cal_Mike »
[size=85]Sunset Zone: 21 USDA Zone: 10a AHS Heat Zone: 6-7[/size]

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Re: Eugenia Mystery Plant
« Reply #23 on: June 27, 2019, 04:48:24 PM »
that make most sense, mine get that red growth sometime, and fruit shape can be just like cherry rio..

pretty sure i mentioned this is most likely the ID a while ago
Could quite possibly be Eugenia calycina

http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=23994.0

https://www.google.com/search?as_st=y&tbm=isch&hl=en&as_q=&as_epq=EUGENIA+CALYCINA&as_oq=&as_eq=&imgar=&imgcolor=&imgtype=&cr=&as_sitesearch=&safe=images&as_filetype=&as_rights=

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Re: Eugenia Mystery Plant
« Reply #24 on: June 27, 2019, 04:52:24 PM »
Mike,
If you go back earlier in this topic you will see some discussion of Eugenia calycina - Nelita.
I know Miguel in Portugal is the source of these seeds... I bought Nelitas from him for a couple of years and one even started blooming this spring.
I received my Mystery Eugenia from Adam Shafran in a shipment of Cherry of the Rio Grandes seedlings a couple of years ago. This plant stood out from the others with its unique characteristics.
I know Adam also grew some Nelitas... so there could be some sort of cross-over or freaky mutation.
Thanks Adam!

kj


 

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