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Re: Leo Manuel's yard tour 10/26/12
« Reply #25 on: November 01, 2012, 01:42:48 PM »
great pics!

gotta love peggy.

Like devil with one horn.

Is it bad luck to eat the peg?

Anyone growing Peggy in FL?

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Re: Leo Manuel's yard tour 10/26/12
« Reply #26 on: November 01, 2012, 04:33:22 PM »
Thanks for sharing the pictures. Can imagine it was an outstanding outing for you guys!

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Re: Leo Manuel's yard tour 10/26/12
« Reply #27 on: November 01, 2012, 06:20:54 PM »
This is in the San Diego area? Amazing! I, too, am surprised at the size of the lychee tree. What a great tour! Thanks for posting. BTW: I also see lots more than just fruits and garden photos when I clicked on any one of your photo.  ;D
« Last Edit: November 01, 2012, 06:26:35 PM by NewGen »

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Re: Leo Manuel's yard tour 10/26/12
« Reply #29 on: November 02, 2012, 03:24:10 AM »
Wow, very cool day, 3 incredible people (plus you guys) and one amazing yard!  Yes Peggy does look pretty, glad she tastes good too.    Please put me down for a scion if any become available, I need to complete my collection of CA mangoes. 8)

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Re: Leo Manuel's yard tour 10/26/12
« Reply #30 on: November 02, 2012, 09:42:12 PM »
Wow, first Eunice and now Leo Manuel. How do I sign up for the tour group? But seriously, weekdays aren't too good for me.

Thanks for the photos. These people are around so long they must have seedlings that are better than some named cultivars.

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Re: Leo Manuel's yard tour 10/26/12
« Reply #31 on: November 05, 2012, 06:03:45 PM »
It seems I had spoken too soon regarding Peggy not having rich flavor.  The 2nd of those two mangoes sat out a week longer, without any sign of breaking down, tasted fantastic.  It was sweeter and whatever acidity the 1st fruit had was not detected at all in this mango.  I dare to venture a turf war in say this mango is better than Pickering ;D

Absolutely worth growing for SoCal, don't know if it's proven elsewhere.





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Re: Leo Manuel's yard tour 10/26/12
« Reply #32 on: November 05, 2012, 07:54:28 PM »
It seems I had spoken too soon regarding Peggy not having rich flavor.  The 2nd of those two mangoes sat out a week longer, without any sign of breaking down, tasted fantastic.  It was sweeter and whatever acidity the 1st fruit had was not detected at all in this mango.  I dare to venture a turf war in say this mango is better than Pickering ;D

Absolutely worth growing for SoCal, don't know if it's proven elsewhere.







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I agree that it is worth growing but I wouldn't rate it better than a Pickering. I would sandwich it in between a Graham and a Dot. I don't think it would make my top 10 list.

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Re: Leo Manuel's yard tour 10/26/12
« Reply #33 on: November 05, 2012, 08:07:52 PM »
Haven't had Dot but I didn't think much of Graham, a good mango but not that special.
I'm not sure the exact stage you ate your previous Peggy Winters but this one was much better than the my first, a lot better than the two we sampled at Leo's. Weird how its profile changes so drastically.
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Re: Leo Manuel's yard tour 10/26/12
« Reply #34 on: November 05, 2012, 08:23:45 PM »
Haven't had Dot but I didn't think much of Graham, a good mango but not that special.
I'm not sure the exact stage you ate your previous Peggy Winters but this one was much better than the my first, a lot better than the two we sampled at Leo's. Weird how much its profile changes so drastically.


I loved Graham and I did take a Winter home. I agree with you that if you let in ripen in a fruit bowl it gets better but I even rate the California Ott better.....I guess I prefer that intense full mango flavor.

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here are pics of a couple of large lychee trees around here







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Re: Leo Manuel's yard tour 10/26/12
« Reply #35 on: November 05, 2012, 08:35:15 PM »
I've got to try this OTT you've been advocating for so long ;D
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Re: Leo Manuel's yard tour 10/26/12
« Reply #36 on: November 05, 2012, 08:45:29 PM »
I've got to try this OTT you've been advocating for so long ;D

I had the Ott for the first time this summer but I heard it is one of Julian Lara favorite mangos.

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Re: Leo Manuel's yard tour 10/26/12
« Reply #37 on: November 08, 2012, 06:35:45 AM »
Hi Guys,

Peggy sure looks delish 8) Tim, what happened to the horn? Don't tell me you sold it to China :o ;D

Joe, Those mature Lychee trees look amazing 8)

I'm truly shocked to hear that OTT is one of Julian Lara's favorite mangos :o

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Re: Leo Manuel's yard tour 10/26/12
« Reply #38 on: November 08, 2012, 12:37:22 PM »
JF thanks for the pics of the amazing Lychee trees, I still am amazed by the size if the tree. Do the Santa Ana winds not effect the tree?

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Re: Leo Manuel's yard tour 10/26/12
« Reply #39 on: November 08, 2012, 02:10:50 PM »
Yes, Tim - like Mr. Jack Fruit asked - where's Peggy's horn of plenty?

It's GOT to be the best part of the mango!

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Re: Leo Manuel's yard tour 10/26/12
« Reply #40 on: November 15, 2012, 03:37:32 PM »
The unknown longan from 1st post is Sri Chompoo.

What happened to the horn?  It's been long digested ;D

Yes, Tim - like Mr. Jack Fruit asked - where's Peggy's horn of plenty?

It's GOT to be the best part of the mango!

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Re: Leo Manuel's yard tour 10/26/12
« Reply #41 on: February 01, 2013, 10:43:13 PM »
Here it is Mike T... it's Kensington Pride but they were around the 750gram range about half the size of your R2E2.

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Re: Leo Manuel's yard tour 10/26/12
« Reply #42 on: September 30, 2013, 07:20:37 PM »
Here are some pics of a recent tasting done at Leo's residence.  Thank you Leo for always being an incredibly generous host, Jim, Joe (JF) & PM (not the PedalaiMaster we knew here) but more like Professor M who happens to be in my neck of the woods, owns an incredible property with any & everything you'd want to grow but CAN'T.  Phone died so no pics of his place, sorry.

Brewster Lychees from Leo's tree....Jim labeling mangoes brought from his trees


mangoes:  bowl from Leo....basket from JF....ORO from Jim


lychees...humungous Keitt in the 3-4lb range...one of several Keitts on the ground


Leo w/Maha Chanok seedling fruit (poly seed came from the motherland) ...Rosie Gold front & back


Villaseņor dwarf bearing habit?...rose apples


The Grandmasters awaiting...incredibly productive Surinam cherry


Surinam cherries galore...branch of Brewster...Jim's Carrie


Joe's Chinchilla from La Habra...Leo & his Leo2 seedling .....two of the more magnificently colored mangoes I've seen...and I haven't seen much ;D


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Re: Leo Manuel's yard tour 10/26/12
« Reply #43 on: September 30, 2013, 08:22:36 PM »
Tim, thanx for sharing the pics. Once again I couldn't make it to that tasting either. Great looking fruit!!!

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Re: Leo Manuel's yard tour 10/26/12
« Reply #44 on: September 30, 2013, 10:25:03 PM »
Amazing collection and new varieties, thank you for what you're doing and for posting.
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Re: Leo Manuel's yard tour 10/26/12
« Reply #45 on: October 01, 2013, 01:12:52 AM »

Well documented Tim! Here are some pics of Leo's 3 pound Keitts and his 25 year old Maha tree loaded with fruits.

I like to thank Leo and Jim for being great host we'll see you guys next year in Palm Springs and La Habra!







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Re: Leo Manuel's yard tour 10/26/12
« Reply #46 on: October 01, 2013, 09:18:17 AM »
WOW Great farm! Great photos! Thank you very much!  ;D

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Re: Leo Manuel's yard tour 10/26/12
« Reply #47 on: October 14, 2013, 11:21:56 PM »
Tim, thanks for sharing pic's of a meeting of the Masters, great pic's!!! 8) 8)

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Re: Leo Manuel's yard tour 10/26/12
« Reply #48 on: December 04, 2015, 05:43:10 PM »
First time for me. Any information regarding the Peggy mango variety?

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Allow me to simply apologize for the barrage of pictures ;D

A big Thank You to Leo for generously hosting us in his amazingly compact backyard, thank you Simon (simon_grow) for putting this meeting together and making everything possible, it truly was an enjoyable day.  The casts included Leo Manuel himself, Simon, two other forum members we met for the first time known as Gary (mangofang) & Joe (JF), Eunice Messner chauffeured by Joe, Jim Neitzel & Frank (can't seem to recall but I think Jim mentioned Abbott)... and myself.

Simon will provide more details on the Q&A by members here at a later time.

Leo's marked Todo Santos wedge graft  -  multi-grafted tree


Todo Santos mangoes - we were told it's a Mexican cultivar




Moringa - not having much success in front yard


Longan - forgot to ask which cultivar


Passiflora coccinea?


Big jaboticaba tree right in his front porch - doesn't get nearly as much sun (in between properties)


Kensington Pride seedling tree & fruits





Leo's mislabeled "Carrie" seedling tree, I suspect it to be VP seedling - Jim also confirms my VP suspicion


Thomson T-1 mango - according to Leo, Paul Thomson preferred this mango many times over his other commercialized cultivar, Thomson mango.


"Florida sourced" Maha Chanok, multi-grafted onto the same rootstock as the T-1.  That's his dilemma for not cutting the tree back to let Maha Chanok thrive



seedling mango tree


A massive seedling mango that Leo doesn't remember from which cultivar



another seedling selection that's multi-grafted onto the same tree as above


Multi-grafted seedling selections with Simon looking on


Nam Doc Mai bush





dwarf Keitt mango - this tree was allowed to fruit at a young age, doesn't seem to bounce back at all, it's now putting out even more humongous fruits ... poor tree




Jim, mangofang & Eunice admiring the multi-grafted Peggy mango tree ... Jim calls this Peggy tree "the always reliable"






grafted onto the same rootstock as Peggy, forgot which variety this is (U.P.)?  This exposed to the element fruit doesn't seem to fare well


Brewster Lychee - only remaining handful of fruits are on the neighbor's side of the yard


One of the many seedling trees, though this one has not been grafted on yet.  Bottom right hand corner in white grafting tape is a newly grafted Lemon Zest.


Kensington Pride mangoes, the actual KP mango -not KP seedling like his other trees






Leo in the midst of  his backyard jungle


seedling tree's new growth - the colors are absolutely amazing in person


McDill white sapote, fruits in the cluster of 4 in the second picture are bigger than a large navel orange ... unreal



seedling rose apple from one of his other known cultivar, new growth on SoCAL sky backdrop


big macadamia seedling tree, planted just outside of his property line



Pink Panther dragon fruit - He told us but I forgot the actual crosses


Yellow Dragon - even though it hasn't fully filled out, still pretty big fruits for a yellow dragon


Leo's signature hybrid DRAGON TOMATO


San Ignacio (red) - this fruit is massive, the thumb scale doesn't do it justice


huge cherimoya tree's new growth after "severe" pruning - humongous leaves


mangofang, JF & Leo ... you can't really tell but I managed to get in under the low canopy of this Peggy mango to snap this picture - annoying paparazzi skills ;D


Jim discussing plant matters with Eunice


small view of Leo's backyard jungle, left of the cherimoya tree is his Annona hybrid (Atemoya x Cherimoya)


fruits from seedling tree "seedling 3" & fruit of another seedling selection



Eunice's box of mangoes - Edwards, Thomsons & Carnivals


Kent mango knocked off the tree by accident, rock hard & still very green (outside the box)


Leo's favorite fruits ;D


Leo's sampler basket - clockwise from top right:  Peggy, Rose Giant, Rose Giant, seedling 11, Early Gold, Rose Giant (center)


Eunice & Frank in conversation with Jim(not in picture), JF staring at mangofang.  Behind Frank is a multi-grafted Surinam tree


mangofang showing JF & Simon how big a hoop his long arms make, Simon's not impressed


Jim conversing with Eunice & Frank, with JF replacing mangofang in hoop making


Leo finally resting his legs after multiple tours.  Simon, Frank & I arrived earlier...


Jim discussing poly mango seed with JF, mangofang & Simon



Pioneers of SoCAL tropicals - from left to right:  Leo, Eunice, Frank & Jim


Group picture, seated:  Leo, Eunice, Jim.  Back row:  Me, Frank, Gary (mangofang) & Joe (JF)


Group picture, seated:  Leo, Eunice, Jim.  Back row:  Simon, Me, Frank & Gary (mangofang).   Who's the better photographer?  Simon or JF?


Leo giving our group a tour of his back yard


Jim showing Eunice & myself a seedling loquat, 1 of 4 seeds Maurice Kong sent to Leo & Jim.


lone fruit from seedling selection grafted onto turpentine rootstock.  Leo uses turpentine as opposed to manila rootstocks, I forgot what his explanation to JF was.


top worked tree with Kensington Pride seedling.  Notice the graft right above the rope tie?  Branched out from the scion and fruited immediately.  Fuyu persimmon in background


Fuyu persimmon


Jim showing Eunice a multi-grafted apricot tree


Leo's dragon fruit collection, there are WAY MORE pots than my camera can pan out at that distance.  Can't take pictures from too far because they'd be covered by other trees



Gary questioning legitimacy of this PEGGY mango dropping on its own without my helping


Peggy mango with its unique and characteristic protuberance


Leo's generous gift

Eddie from El Paso, Texas

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Re: Leo Manuel's yard tour 10/26/12
« Reply #49 on: December 04, 2015, 08:57:26 PM »
Sorry, I can't find my notes but I remember liking it. I believe it has a poly seed but my memory is not so good. I have a fruit ripening right now and I'll report back when it's ripe.

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