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Desertcitrus

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What is your favorite grape?
« on: May 07, 2019, 11:07:01 AM »
What is your favorite grape and why? I am new to growing grapes. I remember eating grapes off my uncles grape vines. They were small and had a lot of juice and flavor and I really wanted to plant grapes like that. I just bought a seedless Thompson and a  black monuka . I didnít want the Thompson but we donít have many options here, but now I realize I should have bought something online. Iím in a 8b zone with high summer temps. What would be some good grapes to grow here?

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Re: What is your favorite grape?
« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2019, 12:54:22 PM »
I don't know anything about your climate or really the climate requirements of grapes.

Concord grapes have wonderful flavor but they have seeds.

I grow muscadines, which also have seeds, but are bigger and equally or more flavorful than Concord. Nothing like grocery store table grapes.
I have an "Ison" and a "Darlene."

The Darlene looks like it will finally fruit this summer. Ison was good last year but not mind-blowing.

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Re: What is your favorite grape?
« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2019, 02:13:02 PM »
My uncle lived in zone 6 so I donít know if I could even have the same grapes. Iím in zone 8b. Our weather is just a little cooler than Las Vegas. I would like seedless if I can. But I want something sweet with really good flavor. I donít love the store bought grapes. I also was able to take the Thompson one back. I was thinking maybe a wine grape would be a good idea. Any suggestions?
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Re: What is your favorite grape?
« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2019, 02:17:19 PM »
Moldova black grapes invented in the soviet times.Low maintenance and really high quality .They also last in the fridge until spring.For vine im growing somme really small and black grapes that make the darkest possible vine.Not verry tasty but probably the healthyest vine.I also have french vines and big edible grapes that i forget theyr names but those are high maintenance,they need to be sprayed with all soird of chemicals and i dont do it wich results in bad looking grapes.I make vine from them.Muscadines are american native grapes about wich ive heard only good things.

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Re: What is your favorite grape?
« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2019, 07:36:48 PM »
I have heard things about muscadines also. Is there a specific one that is really good? We will probably be just eating them. Where is a good place to buy them?

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Re: What is your favorite grape?
« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2019, 09:33:54 AM »
I think you made a mistake taking the Thompson back. It is an excellent homegrown grape at least in California. Commercial growers do things to make fruit big, look perfect, ship well, and be as early to market as possible. All this is usually in expense of the flavor/taste. A homegrown Thompson will be miles better than store bought.

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Re: What is your favorite grape?
« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2019, 09:55:50 AM »
I have heard things about muscadines also. Is there a specific one that is really good? We will probably be just eating them. Where is a good place to buy them?


Mine are from Isonís- www.isons.com
I donít think you can go wrong with them. High quality vines.

I havenít tasted any of the main varieties except Ison, which is good.
They have a chart on the website to help you choose. You will need self fertile or a combination of self fertile and female plants.
Going from memory, Supreme and Sugargate sound good and I kinda wish Iíd gotten one of them. But Ison is self fertile, so I got that and Darlene (a bronze female reported to be very good). I would have to look up Supreme and Sugargate as to their flower type....

Edit - Supreme and Sugargate are female, so youíd need a self-fertile variety additionally to get fruit
Here is the comparison chart: https://www.isons.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Muscadine_Chart.pdf
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Re: What is your favorite grape?
« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2019, 01:02:07 PM »
Jupiter tastes distinctly reminiscent of lychee fruit.

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Re: What is your favorite grape?
« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2019, 01:35:16 AM »
I think you made a mistake taking the Thompson back. It is an excellent homegrown grape at least in California. Commercial growers do things to make fruit big, look perfect, ship well, and be as early to market as possible. All this is usually in expense of the flavor/taste. A homegrown Thompson will be miles better than store bought.

Agreed.

I grow Flame, Thompson, Summer Royal, Princess, Crimson, and Summer Muscat.

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Re: What is your favorite grape?
« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2019, 11:23:41 PM »
I grow flame in the baking sun of AZ and it grows very well, almost too well, lol.  3rd year in ground nd not tasted it yet, but, it probably has about 200 clusters of grapes right now.
If you are talking about store bought grapes, everyone in my family loves cotton candy.

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Re: What is your favorite grape?
« Reply #10 on: May 11, 2019, 07:56:35 PM »
I figured the Thompson would be better in the garden than the store. But I wasnít sure so I didnít want to chance it.

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Re: What is your favorite grape?
« Reply #11 on: May 14, 2019, 01:06:27 AM »
I grow flame in the baking sun of AZ and it grows very well, almost too well, lol.  3rd year in ground nd not tasted it yet, but, it probably has about 200 clusters of grapes right now.
If you are talking about store bought grapes, everyone in my family loves cotton candy.

That sounds like a pretty heavy crop load. I'd consider thinning them which should give you sweeter, larger grapes. It's usually done earlier but should still be effective. Do a web search on "thinnig grapes" and you'll find lots of information. I try to leave only 2 clusters per shoot but my vines are over thirty years old and not that vigorous.

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Re: What is your favorite grape?
« Reply #12 on: June 01, 2019, 07:25:43 PM »
Concorde and Muscadine nothing else well except the new cotton candy (in moderation) white grapes.
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Re: What is your favorite grape?
« Reply #13 on: June 01, 2019, 07:30:52 PM »
PS. my "noble" muscadine is superior to the plain vanilla not named muscadine I have.
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