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Should I plant Miracle Fruit from Seed or Grafted?
« on: May 13, 2019, 09:26:55 PM »
I want to plant these in the ground. They are very specific of soil acidity right?

Do some work better as rootstock here?

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Re: Should I plant Miracle Fruit from Seed or Grafted?
« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2019, 10:05:11 PM »
If itís another option, I like air layered for miracle.
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Re: Should I plant Miracle Fruit from Seed or Grafted?
« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2019, 11:21:51 PM »
I would not recommend planting them in ground because they like acidic soil, donít like city water and hate cold weather. Unless you have a long term plan to keep them warm and acidify your soil and water, it is going to be a difficult and often short road.

Even when grown in pots and moved indoors during cold weather, many people have difficulties growing this plant and keeping it alive for more than a couple years.

Seedlings grow very slowly, especially for the first year or two. I have not tried to direct seed miracle fruit into the ground. I would assume that they will probably succumb to the cold weather at my location since I get a bit of frost almost every year.

Like Finca la isla said, you may want to try air layered plants. I order my plants from Plantogram.com

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Re: Should I plant Miracle Fruit from Seed or Grafted?
« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2019, 01:28:32 AM »
I didn't know they were that finicky. I have two them in pots under a large magnolia and have never moved them once. They look good and pump out the fruits. I water the bejesus out of them however, and supplement them with some sulfur every year.
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Re: Should I plant Miracle Fruit from Seed or Grafted?
« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2019, 07:57:20 AM »
Didn't know they were finicky either. Planted one when I moved in 7 years ago in standard HD potting soil in a half barrel in full Florida sun. While I wont claim its doing great, it has consistently produced fruit and has tripled in size. There are several seedlings under it from fruit I missed. Might have to add some sulfur and pine bark to the barrel and see if it improves.

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Re: Should I plant Miracle Fruit from Seed or Grafted?
« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2019, 08:15:48 AM »
Oh yes, they are finicky. I hear that in Florida, they are easier to grow because of the higher humidity and more frequent rains. Miracle fruit grown in SoCal usually show signs of chlorosis and need supplementation with chelated Iron and other minors and trace minerals.

OoChris1, do you have a picture of your plant? How long have you had it?

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Re: Should I plant Miracle Fruit from Seed or Grafted?
« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2019, 09:19:05 AM »
I have several in pots, and the potting mix is peat moss, perlite and steer manure.
And yes, they love super-acidic soil. Our water here has a pH of 7.8, so I always acidify my water anyway, and I just add a little extra pH-Down when I water the (ledidi) miracle fruit. Seem to be doing very well.  I get lots of fruit.

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Re: Should I plant Miracle Fruit from Seed or Grafted?
« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2019, 01:26:27 AM »
I actually just had to move them due to a home renovation but they are within a few feet of their normal spots. Both trees look a bit rough since they are flushing and beginning to flower. I had a hundred plus fruits on them last year.

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Re: Should I plant Miracle Fruit from Seed or Grafted?
« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2019, 01:28:21 AM »
I messed up. The first pic shows them last Thanksgiving with fruit and the second is right now.

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Re: Should I plant Miracle Fruit from Seed or Grafted?
« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2019, 11:14:59 AM »
I actually just had to move them due to a home renovation but they are within a few feet of their normal spots. Both trees look a bit rough since they are flushing and beginning to flower. I had a hundred plus fruits on them last year.


They look nice to me.  How far are you from the ocean?
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Re: Should I plant Miracle Fruit from Seed or Grafted?
« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2019, 01:07:39 AM »
I actually just had to move them due to a home renovation but they are within a few feet of their normal spots. Both trees look a bit rough since they are flushing and beginning to flower. I had a hundred plus fruits on them last year.


They look nice to me.  How far are you from the ocean?

I'm about 10 miles as the crow flies
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Re: Should I plant Miracle Fruit from Seed or Grafted?
« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2019, 01:47:46 AM »
Chris, your tree looks super healthy. My tree had about 200+ fruit last year and it looks like crap now. I kept one of my Miracle Fruit plants outdoors in the winter and it dropped all of its leaves after the first frost.

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Re: Should I plant Miracle Fruit from Seed or Grafted?
« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2019, 01:56:53 AM »
That sucks Simon! I've been inside my head the last couple days about these trees and the info about them being difficult to grow. I really am miffed by this since I have considered them one of my easiest-no-fuss trees that I grow! My wife and I had a baby the day after my pic (above) with all the fruits on the tree, and I literally haven't been outside for 4+ months...other than to water the trees that needed it. I lost some plants (mostly seedlings) but these 2 trees were still thriving. Go figure
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Re: Should I plant Miracle Fruit from Seed or Grafted?
« Reply #13 on: May 17, 2019, 02:04:05 PM »
Those trees look super.  I had one for a few years but managed to kill it last summer.  Not sure what it was, perhaps overwatered.  I had it in a pot, only used rainwater and fertilized with the acidic type miracle grow.  I had to bring it in the house every winter. I'm looking for a replacement, but don't want to spend the big bucks on a nice sized one.
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Re: Should I plant Miracle Fruit from Seed or Grafted?
« Reply #14 on: May 19, 2019, 01:34:06 AM »
This makes me wonder a bit further. Both of my trees made it through the hottest day ever for my area...last July @ 113 degrees (under a 30 ft. Magnolia) AND the subsequent coldest February in 141 years.
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Re: Should I plant Miracle Fruit from Seed or Grafted?
« Reply #15 on: May 19, 2019, 02:58:11 PM »
I left my little seedling outside over the winter without major problems. Though it is looking chlorotic... watering with rain water and distilled water.

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Re: Should I plant Miracle Fruit from Seed or Grafted?
« Reply #16 on: May 20, 2019, 01:08:51 AM »
I left my little seedling outside over the winter without major problems. Though it is looking chlorotic... watering with rain water and distilled water.




Considering our Winter, that little tree looks fine. It will perk up.
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