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First bloom of my citrumeloXichanagensis hybrids
« on: May 20, 2019, 10:25:58 AM »
This year, after 6 years from crossing two of my Ichangstars (5starcitrumeloXCitrus Ichangensis are abundantly flowering for the first time
1232061:




The first flower has 8 petals, fruity perfume, close to that of ichangensis

Another hybrid- 1232060 had one non complete flower last year, but hundreds of flower buds now




I pollinated the castrated flowers of 5star with C.ichangensis pink flower clone from Baches nursery in the spring of 2012 and around 70 zygotic seedlings were planted in the ground next year.
Around two dozens survived without protection, the two that bloom now had no damage during this period.

Interestingly, that while 1232061 is blooming on most of its branches, the flowers on 1232060 appear on the lower part, on twigs with nod count almost two times less those at the top  of the bush.
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Re: First bloom of my citrumeloXichanagensis hybrids
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2019, 02:50:59 PM »
Excellent work, Ilya! I look forward to seeing the fruit.

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Re: First bloom of my citrumeloXichanagensis hybrids
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2019, 03:49:43 PM »
This will be very exciting. I am looking forward to see what the fruit eventually looks like. Might be several more years.

I would encourage you to possibly take some cuttings and grow them inside of a greenhouse too, just to speed the growth up.
(and in case you have an unexpectedly bad Winter)
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Re: First bloom of my citrumeloXichanagensis hybrids
« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2019, 04:53:48 PM »
I have a C. ichangensis X Citrumelo from Adavo (Adam Bajer) from Chech Rep. But it is trifoliate. Yours is not oviously.

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Re: First bloom of my citrumeloXichanagensis hybrids
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2019, 05:44:17 PM »
It's good to see flowering and fruiting trees, in contrast to beat up seedlings in recovery!

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Re: First bloom of my citrumeloXichanagensis hybrids
« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2019, 06:08:33 PM »
(and in case you have an unexpectedly bad Winter)
I shall be much pleased to have such winter ;).
Too many seedlings in the ground.
Actually, quite sure that with so many flowers there will be some fruits this autumn. Both shrubs are quite big, around 2 m high with solid stems.
Leaves are  thick and leathery. 61st is monofoliate, while 60 occasionally has some bifoliate leaves.
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Re: First bloom of my citrumeloXichanagensis hybrids
« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2019, 06:19:04 PM »
I have a C. ichangensis X Citrumelo from Adavo (Adam Bajer) from Chech Rep. But it is trifoliate. Yours is not oviously.
Robert,
Are you sure? They have only citrumeloXYuzu in their catalogue, not an ichangensis hybrid.
Is your plant mature fruiting one?
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Re: First bloom of my citrumeloXichanagensis hybrids
« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2019, 03:16:39 AM »
You are right. I was misleaded by the dark purple colour of thje flush which reminded me strongly of my C. ichangensis IVIA. Same colour but trifoliate leaves. But it is CitrumeloXYuzu. Do you have it? Do you want it  ;) ?

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Re: First bloom of my citrumeloXichanagensis hybrids
« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2019, 03:27:55 AM »
I read on Czech forum that it is not yet fruiting. Actually have around 50 seedlings of 5starXYuzu, some are extremely vigorous.   
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Re: First bloom of my citrumeloXichanagensis hybrids
« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2019, 03:33:32 AM »
and what about the colour of the flush of your 5StarXYuzu seedlings? Purple or green?

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Re: First bloom of my citrumeloXichanagensis hybrids
« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2019, 09:07:33 AM »
The leaves are green and predominantly monofoliate.


This is a strongest one (1420025), grafted on 5star roots in 2016 it is now approaching 4 m in height.



I wonder what Adavo plant could be? Even in pure Yuzu reddish tint is apparent only on the young shoots and under a strong sun illumination.
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Re: First bloom of my citrumeloXichanagensis hybrids
« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2019, 02:52:59 PM »
That's why I thought of C. ichangensis IVIA. My IVIA has dark purple flush. But it is marked YuzuXCitrumelo
Your new hybrids are very impressive. It is one of these that carries flowers?

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Re: First bloom of my citrumeloXichanagensis hybrids
« Reply #12 on: May 21, 2019, 04:36:28 PM »
Do you bend the top to induce it to bloom?

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Re: First bloom of my citrumeloXichanagensis hybrids
« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2019, 06:38:22 PM »
Robert and Mikkel,
Yes, I bend the top of this hybrid for the induction of mature wood flush, it has not flowered yet.
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Re: First bloom of my citrumeloXichanagensis hybrids
« Reply #14 on: May 27, 2019, 10:48:42 PM »
Beautiful tree and nice work Ilya! Congrats. I'm interested to see how the fruit turn out.

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Re: First bloom of my citrumeloXichanagensis hybrids
« Reply #15 on: May 28, 2019, 03:27:15 AM »
Thank you, the fruits start to form now, hope they will be ripe before the winter.
As of today: 1232061




1232060


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Re: First bloom of my citrumeloXichanagensis hybrids
« Reply #16 on: May 28, 2019, 07:22:08 AM »
Are you already doing cross pollination with it?

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Re: First bloom of my citrumeloXichanagensis hybrids
« Reply #17 on: May 28, 2019, 08:42:59 AM »
For the moment, just a back cross to 5star
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Re: First bloom of my citrumeloXichanagensis hybrids
« Reply #18 on: May 30, 2019, 07:31:51 PM »
Awesome job! I have always thought that a citrumelo X ichangensis would be the best bet for a hardy lemon type looking fruit. I am very excited for you and wait for your evaluation on the fruit after ripening!

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Re: First bloom of my citrumeloXichanagensis hybrids
« Reply #19 on: June 01, 2019, 05:01:15 PM »
We shall see in the autumn 😊
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