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Re: New Graft Tool And Test Video! Updated
« Reply #25 on: July 05, 2019, 09:47:23 PM »
This works similarly and uses regular blades. It doesnít have a grooved bottom to hold scions like scionon but has a wider section. With practice you get a hold of it, but scionon should be much easier to use as it is advertised for unskilled persons, lol.

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Re: New Graft Tool And Test Video! Updated
« Reply #26 on: July 05, 2019, 09:57:17 PM »
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Re: New Graft Tool And Test Video! Updated
« Reply #27 on: July 05, 2019, 10:00:46 PM »
This works similarly and uses regular blades. It doesnít have a grooved bottom to hold scions like scionon but has a wider section. With practice you get a hold of it, but scionon should be much easier to use as it is advertised for unskilled persons, lol.

Craftsman Edge Utility Cutter,... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0037IX2BG?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

Good looking out Bro just ordered it ! Way better than $250 👍
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Re: New Graft Tool And Test Video! Updated
« Reply #28 on: July 06, 2019, 12:24:32 AM »
This works similarly and uses regular blades. It doesnít have a grooved bottom to hold scions like scionon but has a wider section. With practice you get a hold of it, but scionon should be much easier to use as it is advertised for unskilled persons, lol.

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I've tried this one also and another similar it, no go. They're not made for grafting and the wedge cutting is very limited and that's an understatement.

Scionon is the only one that works IF you really want a working grafting tool. It also needs some training to be able to cut properly. I'm sure Simon will confirm this now that he just bought one.
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Re: New Graft Tool And Test Video! Updated
« Reply #29 on: July 06, 2019, 12:36:37 AM »
My first try with this cheap tool, not sure if I need more cleaner cut for grafting than this. Worked every time for me.



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Re: New Graft Tool And Test Video! Updated
« Reply #30 on: July 06, 2019, 12:57:30 AM »
Cutting only one side is about Ok, especially on hard wood scion like on your photo. It's harder to do a proper cleft cut. And on soft wood it's even harder.
But try it out by all means, it didn't work for me but it might just work for you.

Also, if you're going to do hard wood cuts mainly, the Omega tool and variants would do the job just fine. And use the good old knife (including utility ones) for the soft wood grafts.
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Re: New Graft Tool And Test Video! Updated
« Reply #31 on: July 06, 2019, 01:09:18 AM »
That was an old picture, I will post more pictures after I am back from vacation mid July. I didnít think it would have trouble cutting on both sides. It didnít look much different than scionon side by side except that scionon has grooves  to hold the scion better on the bottom part. Besides grafting it is a cool utility knife :)

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Re: New Graft Tool And Test Video! Updated
« Reply #32 on: July 06, 2019, 09:42:42 AM »
Itís worth trying itís inexpensive and might work ! If not I will have a dam nice utility tool 😊

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Re: New Graft Tool And Test Video! Updated
« Reply #33 on: July 06, 2019, 01:54:04 PM »
Make sure you do only side grafts and similar ones as this tool cannot properly do cleft type cut. You cannot slice cut like a Scionon tool, you have to crush cut which is a no no for soft scions but with the sharpness of the utility blade, it might work.
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This is what I have and tried and given up. Got them at HD and they come in 2 sizes:


They are not meant to slice cut things, so a crush cut is the only way possible to get a decent size cut:
 



Next to a Scionon, you could clearly see that the Scionon opens much wider and with the groove to hold the tip of the scion, it could easily slice cut it.


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Re: New Graft Tool And Test Video! Updated
« Reply #34 on: July 06, 2019, 03:37:15 PM »
Tha5 Scionon Tool is very cool up there in price but I does get th3 just b done .

Thanks for your help !

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Re: New Graft Tool And Test Video! Updated
« Reply #35 on: July 06, 2019, 08:26:25 PM »
kh0110, looks like you have a different kind of utility knife than craftsman's I have. Which may be why you werenít satisfied with its results. Anyway I ordered a 3-22 mm scionon and hopefully it will be delivered before I am back home. I will post side by side results. In the meantime I am enjoying abundance of cheap fruits in Phuket :)






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Re: New Graft Tool And Test Video! Updated
« Reply #36 on: July 06, 2019, 09:52:16 PM »
Amazing enjoy!

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Re: New Graft Tool And Test Video! Updated
« Reply #37 on: July 07, 2019, 09:02:31 PM »
Grafting tools we tried on tropicals back in the 1990's were a total waste of money and sacrificial plants.
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Re: New Graft Tool And Test Video! Updated
« Reply #38 on: July 07, 2019, 09:30:14 PM »
They definitely look interesting but Mangoes And Avocados donít like them .

Iím practicing the Old School way Manual grafting 😊

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Re: New Graft Tool And Test Video! Updated
« Reply #39 on: July 07, 2019, 10:48:21 PM »
Grafting tools we tried on tropicals back in the 1990's were a total waste of money and sacrificial plants.

Agreed.

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Re: New Graft Tool And Test Video! Updated
« Reply #40 on: July 22, 2019, 04:01:54 PM »
Received my 3-22 mm scionon. It is well built and comes with extra blades and grafting instructions. I am impressed. I have been using utility knife and grafting tools in the past. Here is a pic of the utility knife next to scionon. I will be grafting some mangoes soon and post results. However, I will keep practicing manual grafting.



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Re: New Graft Tool And Test Video! Updated
« Reply #41 on: July 22, 2019, 07:30:40 PM »
Looks heavy duty!
Please let us know if it improves your grafting success..

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Re: New Graft Tool And Test Video! Updated
« Reply #42 on: August 10, 2019, 07:16:58 PM »
This tool sounds great to me i plan on getting one if someone is doing many cuts a day, cutting manual is not the way to go unless your really fast and really skilled, i think its better than the other graft tool commonly seen mainly because it cuts longer than 1/4 of an inch it would be nice to see it perform on harder branches to see if it crushs them instead of cutting them.

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Re: New Graft Tool And Test Video! Updated
« Reply #43 on: August 10, 2019, 07:32:26 PM »
And what a bargain at $215!
Better get two! :)

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Re: New Graft Tool And Test Video! Updated
« Reply #44 on: August 12, 2019, 03:47:10 PM »
The first tool that started the post is only approx 30 dollars

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Re: New Graft Tool And Test Video! Updated
« Reply #45 on: August 12, 2019, 07:40:45 PM »
1Ē union works for mango grafting but of course quality of the scion and rootstock matter also.


Did you just wrap the scion with grafting tape or do you do the bag as well?

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Re: New Graft Tool And Test Video! Updated
« Reply #46 on: August 17, 2019, 01:40:51 PM »
1Ē union works for mango grafting but of course quality of the scion and rootstock matter also.


Did you just wrap the scion with grafting tape or do you do the bag as well?

I wrapped the scion with buddy tape and covered the joint with electrical tape to hold it securely for ~2 weeks. I took the electrical tape off once the scion started to flush.

Update on scionon, i used it for veneer grafting this morning. I was able to get a clean cut in 1 swipe,  it was quick and convenient. Same results could be achieved with cheap blades as well, but I like the scionon convenience :)






 

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