Author Topic: amber jackfruit (Read 6936 times)

Mike T · « **on:** November 03, 2012, 03:34:05 AM »

Today I finally got my hands on an amber jackfruit.Although a runt and mis-shapen it was the real deal and miles ahead of any other jack I have tried in the taste department.I have tried alot of types and nearly all the named ones available here and in much of SE Asia.Amber fetches the highest price in the Sydney markets by far due to its wonderful taste.

Mike T · « **Reply #1 on:** November 03, 2012, 03:55:15 AM »

I have been looking for seeds and many bulbs have poorly formed seeds.

Seadation · « **Reply #2 on:** November 03, 2012, 06:45:41 AM »

Can you describe the texture. It looks like a soft fleshed type?

Mike T · « **Reply #3 on:** November 03, 2012, 06:53:35 AM »

It is neither soft nor crisp being on the firm side.The flesh color is deep apricot rather than orange or yellow.

bsbullie · « **Reply #4 on:** November 03, 2012, 07:00:17 AM »

The walls of the perianths look thin in your first picture but much thicker in the closeup...

cbss_daviefl · « **Reply #5 on:** November 03, 2012, 07:42:56 AM »

Looks and sounds great. I wish we could get some seeds here in south florida.

Mike T · « **Reply #6 on:** November 03, 2012, 08:04:02 AM »

BS I went to the farm a couple of months ago and there were heaps of large perfectly formed fruit.The first ripe was a twisted,small fruit with fewer bulbs than usual and a lower flesh proportion than is usual.I got one quarter of it for seeds.The bulbs in one part were thin walled and in other parts seeds did not develop.In a month or so I'll get a typical one when the big ones are ripening and take a picture.

Saltcayman · « **Reply #7 on:** November 03, 2012, 08:11:06 AM »

Those look fantastic mike. My mouth is watering:)

Jackfruitwhisperer69 · « **Reply #8 on:** November 03, 2012, 08:15:06 AM »

Hi Mike,

Finally them Ambers are popping up, in your neck of the woods

Amber Jack looks freak'n top notch...nice golden coloured flesh

I'm hungry now

Thanks for sharing

Tim · « **Reply #9 on:** November 03, 2012, 04:26:43 PM »

Mike - how long is the season and will you have seeds to ship to in late December? To Vietnam

Mike T · « **Reply #10 on:** November 03, 2012, 05:11:09 PM »

Tim the season goes to April and I was bugging the grower for seeds so he dropped that bit off to me.He asked me not to spread the seeds in australia and will bring another good fruit 'at some time' so I don't know when.There is only a few seeds now and Amaqeq asked for some a long time ago.I will try to get more soon.There are 2 chempa types that should be coming my way soon also which I have been waiting all year for.

Mike T · « **Reply #11 on:** November 14, 2012, 01:25:24 AM »

Another runty amber jack comes my way and is worth me eating even if it is not good enough to go to market.Latex is low and I'm making a mess hooking out seeds.The taste is sensational and so far ahead of the common named local ones it is surprizing.There is the usual jackfruit flavor but also banana, passionfruit mmmmmmm... hard to say but it tastes great.

BMc · « **Reply #12 on:** November 14, 2012, 05:39:18 AM »

My seedling is growing alright but I've gotta get a grafted one from Bruno somehow. I never go along that stretch of road and getting the regular transport guys in to ship would mean a large min purchase. Getting a small courier in would cost about as much...

maybe ill pass the hat around at the club to see if anyone else wants to go in on an order...

Mike T · « **Reply #13 on:** December 07, 2012, 03:24:05 AM »

Ambers are low on latex and they fruit quickly when planted from seed.A friend told today that his seedling that just turned 3 has flowers.I know of another one with flowers at around 2.5 years.

bangkok · « **Reply #14 on:** December 07, 2012, 10:20:24 AM »

I can send you all you want but the problem is with the customs in Oz i guess.

I remember driving in Queensland and there was a roadblock from the Police. They asked me 3 times if i had fruit in my car brought from another state, i said no and then they searched my whole bus through. They found nothing so i could follow my way.

Next day i looked somewhere between my clothes and found a banana there..........

Mike T · « **Reply #15 on:** December 07, 2012, 03:44:38 PM »

Bankok,customs/ag dept have taken many seeds that people have sent me and they have a nose for which are the good ones.Decades ago the state govt and tropical fruit societies were very active here and had trips all over the world getting the best varieties of each fruit type.With jacks, seeds from India,Thailand,Malaysia and Indonesia were brought to Queensland and the best were crossed with each other and selected to improve them.A few good named and are among the common named varieties that are even in places like Florida.It all fell apart,collections got abandoned,govt funding dried up,the fruit clubs disbanded, and cyclones struck.Speaking to the govt researchers of the time amber jackfruit and one called Berry were considered the best by the jackfruit folk.Interestly amber was reduced to a single tree that was 'rediscovered' and Berry is even more scarce being reduced to a single identifiable tree also.
There is probably just as much value in finding the good ones here as getting seeds of overseas good ones.

FlyingFoxFruits · « **Reply #16 on:** December 07, 2012, 03:51:18 PM »

MikeT,

what's the most ruddy jackfruit cultivar you've seen?

Mike T · « **Reply #17 on:** December 07, 2012, 04:04:47 PM »

Saff I can't match up the reddest with a cv name and I have only seen pix of ones close to red.In darwin there are deep tangerine colored flesh ones almost red and a few local that are deep orange.The amber is not really bright orange but amber as the name suggests.Some have a pinkish color.I did see pictures of an indian competition and jack festival with green,white and other odd colored flesh types.While cruchy orange is nearly always better than sloppy yellow it is not always true.I am a man who prefers firmness over sloppiness but some do not share that view.

FlyingFoxFruits · « **Reply #18 on:** December 07, 2012, 04:46:48 PM »

I think you might remember my only post about a jackfruit I liked!

found splat on the grass under a tree at fruit and spice...low latex, soft, amazing texture and aroma...not like all of the firm ones I get ...they taste of banana pineapple and household cleaner (fabuloso brand

)

Felipe · « **Reply #19 on:** December 07, 2012, 04:49:30 PM »

Mike, please stop posting this pictures... or else I will take a plane and make you a visit

Mike T · « **Reply #20 on:** December 07, 2012, 05:52:57 PM »

I could use the help of an expert jackfruit eater Filipe as I have to eat this ripe and over-ripe lot of ambers today as well as bananas and mangoes so they don't get wasted.I ate too many mangosteen and lychees yesterday so it won't be easy.

Felipe · « **Reply #21 on:** December 07, 2012, 06:51:36 PM »

WOW! That's a lot of jackfruit! I`m not a jackfruit expert, in fact I don´t know much about it, I just devour..

Mike T · « **Reply #22 on:** December 08, 2012, 03:00:12 AM »

I was looking for an expert at eating jackfruit.

The bags of amber jack are going into the freezer.

murahilin · « **Reply #23 on:** December 08, 2012, 07:04:06 AM »

Quote from: Mike T on December 08, 2012, 03:00:12 AM

I was looking for an expert at eating jackfruit.

The bags of amber jack are going into the freezer.

How many pounds of cleaned fruit did you end up with?

Mike T · « **Reply #24 on:** December 08, 2012, 07:16:33 AM »

Sheehan the first of the season ones have lower flesh yield so I can get them for free.I got around 12 lbs and flesh yield would be 20% maybe but that will almost double by January.Mid January to May they are all sold for a high price.I think the winter and early flowers don't pollinate as well and have fewer bulbs.I had one in April that was nearly all flesh with very little rag.

Saltcayman · « **Reply #25 on:** December 09, 2012, 04:32:21 PM »

Wow mike that is some great looking jakfruit. How does it do in the freezer? Dave

Mike T · « **Reply #26 on:** December 09, 2012, 05:17:58 PM »

Well howdy Dave.Jackfruit are great for the freezer and for drying.Frozen jackfruit is a treat in hot weather and goes well in smoothies,drinks and with icecream.

Saltcayman · « **Reply #27 on:** December 09, 2012, 05:33:45 PM »

Thanks mike, Good to know. I will add that to my list of fruits hat freeze well.

Mike T · « **Reply #28 on:** December 12, 2012, 03:23:37 AM »

My yard is under bug seige at the moment.This Macleays Spectre is a huge insect and ate a big proportion of my jackfruit tree as I found out today.

BMc · « **Reply #29 on:** December 12, 2012, 05:22:49 PM »

Its eating your tree?
I thought they were bug eaters and good to have in the garden?
We only have to skinny long stick insects and puny leaf insects. We would occasionally get huge brown stick insects with horns, when I was a wee 'un.
I'd love to keep one of those big guys, like your one, as a pet.

murahilin · « **Reply #30 on:** December 12, 2012, 05:36:23 PM »

Quote from: BMc on December 12, 2012, 05:22:49 PM

Its eating your tree?
I thought they were bug eaters and good to have in the garden?
We only have to skinny long stick insects and puny leaf insects. We would occasionally get huge brown stick insects with horns, when I was a wee 'un.
I'd love to keep one of those big guys, like your one, as a pet.

They are leaf eaters apparently. If I saw one I would have thought they were a bug eater since they resemble praying mantises.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extatosoma_tiaratum

Californiatropicals · « **Reply #31 on:** December 12, 2012, 05:46:23 PM »

That looks delicious!

I got one like that earlier this year!
Had a delicious flavor.. like cantaloupe, bubble gum, and something else.. all mixed together!

It was smaller.. that's why I chose it.. i think it only weighed 10 or so pounds..

jimreevescairns · « **Reply #32 on:** December 16, 2012, 06:47:44 AM »

Hi Mike. Can you tell me if the grower sells them locally ? Like durian I find that unless you know people getting good ones locally is really hit and miss .... Usually miss for me. I keep on trying and every once in a while we get an amazing one. Got all the Dutch relatives over and have bought a few to wow them with but all have been really disappointing .
Regards
Jim

Mike T · « **Reply #33 on:** December 16, 2012, 07:15:12 AM »

jim it is not easy as the good ones are not really on the open market.It is a bit early in the eason for many jackfruit yet especially as the wet season is late and it has been dry.Forest Fruit Farm near Tully has Ambers and Berry's.One farm at Ingham also has Ambers but it might be 4 weeks until they are at top quality and the season to sell begins.You could call them and other individual growers to see what they have and if they are coming 'to town'.Private tropical fruit farms have several other really good types but again you have to call them direct.Sorry I am not more help Jim.

Californiatropicals that is a great looking jackfruit and it has an unusual flesh color.

Sheehan I seem to be phasmid central lately and there are even bigger sorts than extatosoma.Two giants had a tag team on my mexican cream and a whopper with blue/green bands nearly wiped out my thai guava.They can eat alot of leaves in a short time and my ducks are scared of them when I toss them on the ground.You couild say my ducks are chickens.

bangkok · « **Reply #34 on:** December 16, 2012, 07:28:26 AM »

Are there also early or late jackfruits? I have a Pet raa chaa growing now which i top-pruned yesterday. It grows well.

I would like to spread my harvestseason a bit if possible by grafting some species on my tree which is only 3 feet (75 cm) tall.

Mike T · « **Reply #35 on:** December 16, 2012, 07:33:49 AM »

They don't vary too much in seasonality between varieties but some have a longer season and others have more outa season.In rainy years the season starts earlier and laste season jacks like in late Summer and Autumn are often better.

bangkok · « **Reply #36 on:** December 16, 2012, 08:12:21 AM »

Quote from: Mike T on December 16, 2012, 07:33:49 AM

They don't vary too much in seasonality between varieties but some have a longer season and others have more outa season.In rainy years the season starts earlier and laste season jacks like in late Summer and Autumn are often better.

But we don't have real seasons here. We have summer in March/April then the wetseason untill november/december, then winter which is dry and cooler and that's it i think.

The pet raa chaa is for sale on the market again now for many weeks and that was also in august the case. Last year they sold them from december untill march and then i went to Holland so i dont know if they sell them all year or where they come from but i will investigate it more and ask more thai about it.

jimreevescairns · « **Reply #37 on:** December 16, 2012, 08:39:40 PM »

Thanks for that Mike
I bought 2 kwai muk seedlings of the lady there a few years ago - will track her down
regards
Jim

Mike T · « **Reply #38 on:** December 16, 2012, 08:52:09 PM »

jim was it kerry mac avoy?She also has a good collection of durian species.Bangkok it does have season just like here but not the traditional ones.April/May in Bangkok when I always seem to go is usually considered summer.I think there might be more fruiting jacks in Bangkok itself in July to November than Dec to Feb unless they are being brougfht in from other areas.There are always a few outside the peak times.

gunnar429 · « **Reply #39 on:** October 20, 2014, 03:28:09 PM »

My amber jack seedling has finally received a spot in the yard. Looking forward to tasting some amber in FL in a few years!!

gunnar429 · « **Reply #40 on:** October 20, 2014, 03:29:42 PM »

Big-up sheehan for spreading these around and whoever gave him the seeds (I suspect Mike T) from Australia!!!

bangkok · « **Reply #41 on:** October 20, 2014, 07:55:54 PM »

I had 2 amber seedlings, 1 died some months ago and i just found out the other one is also dead now. Strange because my other jacks in pots do well but they are grafted ones.

Well i have too many artocarpus anyway and no space to grow them all but i would like to know what was wrong for these seedlings.

pj1881 (Patrick) · « **Reply #42 on:** October 21, 2014, 09:37:01 AM »

I have a tiny seedling with a flower on it already from Mikes seeds!

Sleepdoc · « **Reply #43 on:** October 21, 2014, 01:43:52 PM »

I have 2 amber seedlings planted out. The larger one is 8-10 ft tall but still fairly thin at the base of the trunk. Maybe about the circumference of a quarter.

From what I have seen in other Jacks, fruiting usually occurs after the trunk reaches soda can size. I would guess that will be another 1 1/2 - 2 years of growth.

I also have a Berry seedling planted out that is younger, but it's growing like a beast- 12 ft + in height.

Can't wait to try the fruit !

Felipe · « **Reply #44 on:** October 21, 2014, 05:22:32 PM »

My Amber seedling did die in ground for some strange reason

micah · « **Reply #45 on:** October 22, 2014, 12:52:53 AM »

I got some amber and berry from Mike T as well and they are boosting well...this post has inspired me to get umin the ground!

Mike T · « **Reply #46 on:** October 22, 2014, 04:30:00 AM »

There is no reason for amber seedlings to die or be more spindly than other types.I am glad one seedling at 2 years is flowering.

Sleepdoc · « **Reply #47 on:** October 22, 2014, 09:49:25 AM »

Quote from: Mike T on October 22, 2014, 04:30:00 AM

There is no reason for amber seedlings to die or be more spindly than other types.

I checked on my Ambers yesterday after writing this post. I was wrong about the thickness of the trunk. Not Quarter size- more like silver dollar size - normal thickness in relation to other varieties of seedling.

RICBITAR · « **Reply #48 on:** December 24, 2014, 10:50:20 AM »

Quote from: Mike T on October 22, 2014, 04:30:00 AM

There is no reason for amber seedlings to die or be more spindly than other types.I am glad one seedling at 2 years is flowering.

Wow, Amazing Artocarpus !!!!!

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Author Topic: amber jackfruit (Read 6936 times)