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Rooting Cuttings Without Leaves?
« on: June 03, 2019, 07:04:59 AM »
Question: can you root cuttings or budsticks without leaves? Iím looking at purchasing a clonerr such as this one for insurance on failed grafts. Thanks guys and have a great week!


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Re: Rooting Cuttings Without Leaves?
« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2019, 07:12:55 AM »
I bought one of those before & had a better success rate just dipping the tip of the stick in CloneX & sticking them in soil. Lemons are about the easiest citrus to root. Yes you can root sticks without leaves, you want to keep them in the shade with high humidity until they leaf out. Here the humidity is high enough I don't even need to cover them. Once in a while I will wrap the stick Parafilm tape just for the hell of it.

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Re: Rooting Cuttings Without Leaves?
« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2019, 07:18:45 AM »
I have always left half a leaf on cuttings that I root. The cutting needs to continue with its process but in a reduced manner. I have stuck a plump budstick in the propagating medium and it has popped and grown
 I guess my answer would be yes. Good conditions, good plump budstick....success.

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Re: Rooting Cuttings Without Leaves?
« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2019, 07:33:33 AM »
I have a few going now, I'll keep you posted...

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Re: Rooting Cuttings Without Leaves?
« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2019, 07:41:27 AM »
Normally if I cut the budsticks myself, I leave the last three leaves on the stick. Like I said lemons are pretty much super easy. One of my old photos.

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Re: Rooting Cuttings Without Leaves?
« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2019, 08:20:26 AM »
Sometimes they try a little too hard...

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Re: Rooting Cuttings Without Leaves?
« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2019, 08:20:54 AM »
I like to leave half a leaf if possible, but have had good success both ways.

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Re: Rooting Cuttings Without Leaves?
« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2019, 08:29:49 AM »
On My 6 I stuck 8 budsticks from CCPP in soil, under one cover to maintain humidity and 80F bottom heat. So far, one (shirokolistvennyi mandarin) has put out a shoot about a week ago.

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Re: Rooting Cuttings Without Leaves?
« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2019, 11:59:39 AM »
I tried rooting a lime twig a year ago.  It still hasn't leafed out, but it is still green.  I've never tried this before... I can only assume this is slower than usual.  I used rooting hormone.  Twig has no leaves.

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Re: Rooting Cuttings Without Leaves?
« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2019, 12:11:14 PM »
Way too long...

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Re: Rooting Cuttings Without Leaves?
« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2019, 12:41:09 PM »
One day it will either leaf out or die.  I'm waiting to see which comes first.   :)

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Re: Rooting Cuttings Without Leaves?
« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2019, 05:56:18 PM »
Yes you can root without leaves but it will take a little bit longer.
Not all the citrus are easy to root, for instance satsuma mandarins, rooting percentage is very low.
Rough lemon, Trifoliate orange, Lemon, Cleopatra mandarin and Yuzu all root well in 30-45 days, the rest expect 90 to 120 days. Also Ichang papeda roots well depending on the season.

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Re: Rooting Cuttings Without Leaves?
« Reply #12 on: June 04, 2019, 09:37:52 AM »
> ... Trifoliate orange, ... root well in 30-45 days,
Well, now we know that it is true only if you take the twigs on an immature plant.

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Re: Rooting Cuttings Without Leaves?
« Reply #13 on: June 04, 2019, 09:42:40 AM »
> ... Trifoliate orange, ... root well in 30-45 days,
Well, now we know that it is true only if you take the twigs on an immature plant.

And only in June and July with the highest probability. Mature twigs also root, but it takes longer and percentage is very low. Tested.

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Re: Rooting Cuttings Without Leaves?
« Reply #14 on: June 04, 2019, 01:58:57 PM »
> ... Trifoliate orange, ... root well in 30-45 days,
Well, now we know that it is true only if you take the twigs on an immature plant.

And only in June and July with the highest probability. Mature twigs also root, but it takes longer and percentage is very low. Tested.

When you speak of maturity, do you mean fruiting age or green v. aged wood?

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Re: Rooting Cuttings Without Leaves?
« Reply #15 on: June 05, 2019, 05:46:26 AM »
Fruiting age,  green bark taken only in June/July from new growth.

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Re: Rooting Cuttings Without Leaves?
« Reply #16 on: June 05, 2019, 06:54:32 AM »
Actually, trifoliata & it's hybrids will root out any time during the growing season. When I cleft graft, I take the top I cut off & dip it in rooting powder & stick them in a pot & most root right out.

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Re: Rooting Cuttings Without Leaves?
« Reply #17 on: June 05, 2019, 05:20:15 PM »
Actually, trifoliata & it's hybrids will root out any time during the growing season. When I cleft graft, I take the top I cut off & dip it in rooting powder & stick them in a pot & most root right out.

I agree

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Re: Rooting Cuttings Without Leaves?
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Re: Rooting Cuttings Without Leaves?
« Reply #19 on: June 05, 2019, 08:15:22 PM »
Good luck with it Kelly, keep any eye out for mold.

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Re: Rooting Cuttings Without Leaves?
« Reply #20 on: June 06, 2019, 11:16:45 AM »
Thanks Laaz, and thank you everyone for your help and advice!

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Re: Rooting Cuttings Without Leaves?
« Reply #21 on: June 15, 2019, 04:06:16 PM »
my 1yr old cutting has decided to flower.  Still no leaves.

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Re: Rooting Cuttings Without Leaves?
« Reply #22 on: June 15, 2019, 06:06:06 PM »
Lol! Knock the flower buds off.

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Re: Rooting Cuttings Without Leaves?
« Reply #23 on: June 15, 2019, 07:15:34 PM »
Rub them blooms off. That root system & little bit of tissue is gonna not support them blooms.....fruit....

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Re: Rooting Cuttings Without Leaves?
« Reply #24 on: June 15, 2019, 08:47:13 PM »
Lemon is famous for doing this. I grow lemon on its own roots and l start a bunch of cuttings in a big pot. If I take the cuttings from the top of a tree they break out with blooms and fruit before the cuttings have a root system that will support the blooms. I like to rub the blooms off and give the cutting the nutrients that would go to blooms and fruit. M lemon is really bad about it.

 

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