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Citrandarin 899J (Bernhard Voss)
« on: August 06, 2019, 09:53:29 AM »
The very first fruit of Citrandarin 899J





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Re: Citrandarin 899J (Bernhard Voss)
« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2019, 10:17:18 AM »
Very nice. For a long time I have been unable to gather very much information, much less any start of Bernard Voss citrus. Seems like it is a smaller group of folks due to location that grow it. Congratulations on your succes.

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Re: Citrandarin 899J (Bernhard Voss)
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2019, 10:59:50 AM »
Bernard, seems to be a very successful grower and hybridizer.  As far as the names for his fruits, I believe he just make up a name.  Therefore, it is difficult to understand what the fruit is or how it came to be.

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Re: Citrandarin 899J (Bernhard Voss)
« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2019, 04:17:32 PM »
Millet, it is quite clear what this fruit is -exept of one striking point. Bernhard got some fruits from a Hybrid Poncirus X Changsha when he visited Riverside or another USDA-Citrus -site. The Citrandarin 899 obviously produces zygotic seeds. Back home Bernhard planted the seeds of his 899-fruits. As open pollinated, he did not know -and nobody knew- what the F2 parents could have been. He named the seedllings 899A to... R(?) and tested their cold hardiness. Some of them survived. I own 899A, 899F, 899K? and 899J. Allof them have already flowered and I got some fruits. J was the last. Fruit of A tasted nice and was sweet. It is strictly  monofoliate. the others have trifoliate leaves and taste nasty. That is the story.

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Re: Citrandarin 899J (Bernhard Voss)
« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2019, 05:48:11 PM »
I might have asked it already... is your plant in open ground or in a pot?
Thank you!

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Re: Citrandarin 899J (Bernhard Voss)
« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2019, 06:09:32 PM »
I have 899J in open ground, unprotected since 2004.
It is now more than 3 m tall, but has not fruited yet.
It was a rather shy grower, twig damage was evident after -12C, and recovery next season was very limited, but main trunk was never damaged and this plant survived a winter with -16C and two weeks of frozen soil.
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Re: Citrandarin 899J (Bernhard Voss)
« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2019, 10:47:44 AM »
I have 899J in open ground, unprotected since 2004.
It is now more than 3 m tall, but has not fruited yet.
It was a rather shy grower, twig damage was evident after -12C, and recovery next season was very limited, but main trunk was never damaged and this plant survived a winter with -16C and two weeks of frozen soil.

Ilya, is yours grafted on PT? It seems that 899A and 899J are not really compatible with PT. 899A has a sharp shoulder where scion meets rootstock. With 899J it is a bit less obvious. Same effect can be seen with Kumquat on PT.
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Re: Citrandarin 899J (Bernhard Voss)
« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2019, 10:53:33 AM »
I might have asked it already... is your plant in open ground or in a pot?
Thank you!

Mine is in pot.

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Re: Citrandarin 899J (Bernhard Voss)
« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2019, 12:19:08 PM »
Ilya, is yours grafted on PT? It seems that 899A and 899J are not really compatible with PT. 899A has a sharp shoulder where scion meets rootstock. With 899J it is a bit less obvious. Same effect can be seen with Kumquat on PT.
Robert,
I got this plant from B.Voss, it is very low grafted, most probably on poncirus rootstock.
Not much  evident graft shoulder up to now.
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Re: Citrandarin 899J (Bernhard Voss)
« Reply #9 on: August 08, 2019, 07:49:02 AM »
Ilya, 899A is much worse. The question is: is there a chance to get better results if I craft on another rootstock? Slower growing or faster growing? I could use FD or some Citrumelo.

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Re: Citrandarin 899J (Bernhard Voss)
« Reply #10 on: August 08, 2019, 02:49:16 PM »
I guess Swingle or 5star citrumelo will help to avoid "elephant leg" problem.
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