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sho shang
« on: September 08, 2019, 12:55:09 PM »
Hi All, has anyone in the San Diego area grown sho shang/so shan   "Elaeagnus Latifolia" and had it fruit??    Regards    Patrick

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Re: sho shang
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2019, 07:53:42 PM »
I am currently growing one, they do very well in San Diego.  Unfortunately the one that I have ( grown from a seed) is pretty much inedible. Extremely tannic and tart until the fruits are fall off the tree ripe then they have a slight plum like flavor but are so astringent that I cannot eat them.

If there is someone out there with a superior variety I would love to get some scions and convert my tree over to something useful.

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Re: sho shang
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2019, 08:08:11 PM »
Hey Patrick,

I have one that produces here. The tag says it is "Katherine Anderson hybrid" It tastes ok, but it does have to be really ripe to taste good.

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Re: sho shang
« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2019, 08:26:18 PM »
I'm growing one here, if it's a good quality fruit I'll let you guys know and provide cuttings/plants/scions

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Re: sho shang
« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2019, 12:39:35 AM »
Thanks for the comments any idea how long to fruit??

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Re: sho shang
« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2019, 05:07:41 AM »
I have one also that's very good. If it's not fully ripe it's just tart, very little astringency. Good quality fruits. Richard, did you start your plants from seeds i sent you?
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Re: sho shang
« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2019, 11:07:29 AM »
Very delicious and no astringency here, 3 x goumi size. A new favorite when in season.

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Re: sho shang
« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2019, 02:29:37 PM »
very cool B2B
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Re: sho shang
« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2019, 03:49:12 PM »
Very delicious and no astringency here, 3 x goumi size. A new favorite when in season.

Oscar,

No, the plant i have is from seeds from another source.  I probably should have saved one of the plants from your seeds, but after the second crop of fruit from my tree I gave away all the potted plants I had.

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Richard

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Re: sho shang
« Reply #9 on: September 09, 2019, 03:50:27 PM »
Thanks for the comments any idea how long to fruit??

I think mine was about three years.

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Re: sho shang
« Reply #10 on: September 09, 2019, 05:16:36 PM »
Thanks for the comments any idea how long to fruit??

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Re: sho shang
« Reply #11 on: September 09, 2019, 09:48:46 PM »
OOK for sure next year I should be getting fruit, my tree came from mimosa nursery in L.A.gifted to me by a fellow form member, I am glad I planted it in my front yard close to the side walk.

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Re: sho shang
« Reply #12 on: September 09, 2019, 10:44:53 PM »
Hey Patrick,

I have one that produces here. The tag says it is "Katherine Anderson hybrid" It tastes ok, but it does have to be really ripe to taste good.

Hi Mark,

Is that the one I brought you one time?  I think Catherine (and the rest of us) never figured out what species that one is.  We suspected it's a hybrid of goumi and something else.

My favorite Elaeagnus is autumn olive -- they're tiny but really tasty.


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Re: sho shang
« Reply #13 on: September 10, 2019, 07:45:46 PM »
Hey Patrick,

I have one that produces here. The tag says it is "Katherine Anderson hybrid" It tastes ok, but it does have to be really ripe to taste good.

Hi Mark,

Is that the one I brought you one time?  I think Catherine (and the rest of us) never figured out what species that one is.  We suspected it's a hybrid of goumi and something else.



My favorite Elaeagnus is autumn olive -- they're tiny but really tasty.

Hi Barath,

Yes that is the one. I forgot who gave it to me. It is now 9 feet tall.

Thanks
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Re: sho shang
« Reply #14 on: September 12, 2019, 11:14:25 AM »
mine was named (Bastard Oleaster) from mimosa nursery, is anyone familiar with this one??

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Re: sho shang
« Reply #15 on: September 12, 2019, 01:09:18 PM »
Bastard Oleaster is just another common name (like Soh Shang) for Elaeagnus latifolia.
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Re: sho shang
« Reply #16 on: September 12, 2019, 07:41:41 PM »
mine was named (Bastard Oleaster) from mimosa nursery, is anyone familiar with this one??
Yes that's just the english name for same plant. But nobody likes to use it, for obvious reasons!
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