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flying dragon vs trifoliate orange
« on: September 16, 2019, 11:16:46 AM »
Someone sent me some seedlings. They aren't sure if they are flying dragon or generic trifoliate orange. At such an immature stage, is there an easy way to tell them apart? or identify one from the other?


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Re: flying dragon vs trifoliate orange
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2019, 12:01:15 PM »
Not an expert, but even the seedlings I've had of the Flying Dragon cultivar show a different pattern of growth, and I would think yours are not Flying Dragon.

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Re: flying dragon vs trifoliate orange
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2019, 12:06:19 PM »
Flying dragon has curved thorns & contorted growth habit. What you have is standard trifoliata.

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Re: flying dragon vs trifoliate orange
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2019, 01:04:29 PM »
Is the curved contorted growth apparent this young?

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Re: flying dragon vs trifoliate orange
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2019, 01:13:15 PM »
Yes.

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Re: flying dragon vs trifoliate orange
« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2019, 01:37:44 PM »
Wrong link.
« Last Edit: September 16, 2019, 01:41:08 PM by Bomand »

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Re: flying dragon vs trifoliate orange
« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2019, 01:44:27 PM »
Someone sent me some seedlings. They aren't sure if they are flying dragon or generic trifoliate orange. At such an immature stage, is there an easy way to tell them apart? or identify one from the other?

Flying dragon has downcurved thorns and it growth is not straight trifolate orange growth is straight and thorns are straight out

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Re: flying dragon vs trifoliate orange
« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2019, 01:46:09 PM »
Didn't we already cover that?

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Re: flying dragon vs trifoliate orange
« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2019, 02:06:15 PM »
sorry images did not upload i have pictures of both
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Re: flying dragon vs trifoliate orange
« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2019, 02:14:47 PM »
« Last Edit: September 16, 2019, 02:16:23 PM by dlhvac »

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Re: flying dragon vs trifoliate orange
« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2019, 02:45:06 PM »
You need to use the img tags to make the image viewable...


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Re: flying dragon vs trifoliate orange
« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2019, 07:43:26 PM »
Thanks everyone for helping me with the identification (and the picture for future reference)!

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Re: flying dragon vs trifoliate orange
« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2019, 07:52:25 PM »
You need to use the img tags to make the image viewable...


not sure how to do that

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Re: flying dragon vs trifoliate orange
« Reply #13 on: September 17, 2019, 12:51:15 AM »
It looks like standard trifoliate. Might be some rootstock trifoliate hybrid, but most likely regular trifoliate.

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Re: flying dragon vs trifoliate orange
« Reply #14 on: September 17, 2019, 07:25:39 AM »
Lol! If you say so Charlie Brown.

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Re: flying dragon vs trifoliate orange
« Reply #15 on: September 17, 2019, 08:16:38 AM »
Good grief. The thorns in the above pic are contorted/curved ......FLYING DRAGON.

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Re: flying dragon vs trifoliate orange
« Reply #16 on: September 17, 2019, 10:31:40 AM »
No it is not Flying Dragon.

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Re: flying dragon vs trifoliate orange
« Reply #17 on: September 17, 2019, 12:56:23 PM »
What is it Millet? I have not seen any FD without curved thorns. Cross of something? I was speaking of the pic above this post, not the original posted pic. Im interested. Would love to cultivate something with curved thorns that are not on flying D.
« Last Edit: September 17, 2019, 01:08:58 PM by Bomand »

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Re: flying dragon vs trifoliate orange
« Reply #18 on: September 17, 2019, 09:27:30 PM »
Bomand,  Sorry I thought you were still talking about the picture of scamper's tree at the beginning of this thread.
« Last Edit: September 17, 2019, 09:30:31 PM by Millet »

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Re: flying dragon vs trifoliate orange
« Reply #19 on: September 17, 2019, 10:00:28 PM »
No problem. 😁

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Re: flying dragon vs trifoliate orange
« Reply #20 on: September 23, 2019, 09:20:53 PM »
I heard a presentation years ago (Perhaps at the International Citrus Congress in Sun City South Africa, 1996???), about Flying Dragon from seed.  They said that while it was highly nucellar, there was a lot of variation among seedlings.  As I recall, they said that there was a nice correlation between the degree of thorn curving and the amount of dwarfing you could get as a rootstock.  So they recommended selecting in favor of the most curved thorns, if strong dwarfing was the desired characteristic in the rootstock.

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Re: flying dragon vs trifoliate orange
« Reply #21 on: September 23, 2019, 09:35:51 PM »
Good grief. The thorns in the above pic are contorted/curved ......FLYING DRAGON.
I was not referring to the image immediately above my post. Sorry if that was not made more clear.

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Re: flying dragon vs trifoliate orange
« Reply #22 on: September 23, 2019, 11:00:49 PM »
Very interesting,  even exciting, "the more the thorn curves the greater the dwarfing of the tree.  Thanks that is great information.

 

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