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SeaWalnut

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Successfull zone pushing examples
« on: October 18, 2019, 07:38:14 PM »
Lets hear of somme of the most unusual,successfull and also non successfull ,zone pushing examples.
I figgure out this might be an interesting read.

—ot only about fruit trees but also otther edibles,perenials and even non fruiting plants.
« Last Edit: October 18, 2019, 07:40:38 PM by SeaWalnut »

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Re: Successfull zone pushing examples
« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2019, 08:06:41 AM »
I planted moringa on the South side of my house and it freezes to the ground every winter. Same for a white sapote. I had a tropical guava in my front yard with a bunch of tree cover and the same thing happened to it until a bad frost that killed it. Those are my primary zone pushing failures! D

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« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2019, 03:16:32 AM »
I planted moringa on the South side of my house and it freezes to the ground every winter. Same for a white sapote. I had a tropical guava in my front yard with a bunch of tree cover and the same thing happened to it until a bad frost that killed it. Those are my primary zone pushing failures! D

On what temps does white sapote start to show damage from cold?

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« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2019, 07:37:02 AM »
This one is damaged at about 0c. It has been exposed to about -4 or -5c and always regrown, although never set fruit. D

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« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2019, 09:07:27 AM »
wow survival at that low temps sounds really amazing!!! i hope if its still alive to fruit soon!

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« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2019, 12:27:36 PM »
I have miracle fruit Fruiting in 9b, moringa is growing like a weed in my yard.

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« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2019, 03:41:47 PM »
This one is damaged at about 0c. It has been exposed to about -4 or -5c and always regrown, although never set fruit. D

What is your zone? 8b? I hear white sapote does totally fine in 9b.

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Re: Successfull zone pushing examples
« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2019, 09:14:20 PM »
Florda prince peaches sometimes fruit in Cairns at 17s latitude and a very tropical climate a bit like US zone 12.Im not a fan of the zone classification. Anyway it is about 2000km closer to the equator than they would prefer.

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Re: Successfull zone pushing examples
« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2019, 08:40:18 AM »
I'm in USDA zone 9a. In February 2018, we had very cold temperature. In my garden, about -9įC. Sapote Blanco ( Casimiroa edulis) survived, the young and tender leaves drop, but the trees recover well during the summer.
Tamarillo (Solanum betaceum) all aerial parts were damaged, but also recover well. Some avocado tree dies, but not all ! Citrus were fine.

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« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2019, 01:29:41 PM »
Im growing a Miracle Berry in Texas.. and it grows like crazy. 

im having problems with it..  but not from its desire to grow. we are having nights that are dipping into the 50's and its still making berry buds.
the leaves are too lime green though. and the baby fruits are dropping.

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« Reply #10 on: October 22, 2019, 02:52:42 PM »
My miracle berry is fruiting and flowering like crazy too... we've been below 50 at night a few times this year and it doesn't seem to mind yet.

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« Reply #11 on: October 22, 2019, 03:55:33 PM »
you think it likes the cold? i keep bringing it in during the 50's nights trying to squeak one last crop out of them.


theres a good point to remember about tropics. they arent always hot, they are just the same temp all year.  as an example, i tried to grow Yoco once, and it was more cold delicate than theobroma.. but, it didnt like anything but 80's. Thats not hot at all to me.

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« Reply #12 on: October 22, 2019, 09:58:12 PM »
Certainly flowers more in the high 80s days 50s nights

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« Reply #13 on: October 23, 2019, 07:31:06 AM »
K-rimes, The part of Houston I live in is 9a. Mostly because of all the concrete etc retaining heat. My lot is covered in large trees. Difficult to get sunlight to anything, but also moderates the summer heat, so I guess my whole yard is pushing the zone..... D
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Re: Successfull zone pushing examples
« Reply #14 on: October 23, 2019, 08:37:35 AM »
In 9b and I have in ground All-spice for 7 years or so and an African Sausage tree that's 12-14 feet tall. Plus the usual zone pushing stuff like mangos and Ice Cream bean.

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« Reply #15 on: October 23, 2019, 02:34:01 PM »
In 9b and I have in ground All-spice for 7 years or so and an African Sausage tree that's 12-14 feet tall. Plus the usual zone pushing stuff like mangos and Ice Cream bean.

Wow, good to know about mango there. Are you protecting it at all in the winter?

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Re: Successfull zone pushing examples
« Reply #16 on: October 23, 2019, 02:52:39 PM »
Iíve got mangoes, papaya, Jamaican cherry, pineapples, Barbados cherry, avocados, guavas in Fresno ca 9b.

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Re: Successfull zone pushing examples
« Reply #17 on: October 23, 2019, 02:53:50 PM »
Iíve got mangoes, papaya, Jamaican cherry, pineapples, Barbados cherry, avocados, guavas in Fresno ca 9b.

Do you protect any of them for winter?

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« Reply #18 on: October 23, 2019, 05:24:03 PM »
I protected everything last year with frost cloth. No damage at 28f

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Re: Successfull zone pushing examples
« Reply #19 on: October 24, 2019, 07:57:08 AM »
In 9b and I have in ground All-spice for 7 years or so and an African Sausage tree that's 12-14 feet tall. Plus the usual zone pushing stuff like mangos and Ice Cream bean.

Wow, good to know about mango there. Are you protecting it at all in the winter?

I will mound mulch around the base fairly thickly in December and when very cold weather is predicted I will push it against the trunk as high as I can. I will throw a sheet over it and hope it protects the leaves. I also try to get them to grow as thick and bushy as possible at the expense of height. Theres nothing I can do for the sausage tree and I do nothing for the All-spice.

 

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