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It's a Miracle... What's you favorite sour experience?
« on: October 25, 2019, 11:00:27 AM »
I've tried the sour citrus, and sour cream, all really good What is your favorite taste altering experiment?


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Re: It's a Miracle... What's you favorite sour experience?
« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2019, 06:50:59 PM »
Balsamic vinegar is a trip... ;D

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Re: It's a Miracle... What's you favorite sour experience?
« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2019, 06:54:21 PM »
Well, it does make red wine that has gone bad taste really sweet! My daughter-in-law discovered that one!

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Re: It's a Miracle... What's you favorite sour experience?
« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2019, 08:18:17 PM »
Makes a strong IPA beer taste sweet with some special notes for me.

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Re: It's a Miracle... What's you favorite sour experience?
« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2019, 08:29:36 AM »
Balsamic and beer interesting... I tried decent wine and I hated it... cloyingly sweet! Ha ha

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Re: It's a Miracle... What's you favorite sour experience?
« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2019, 08:41:35 PM »
grapefruit is awesome

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Re: It's a Miracle... What's you favorite sour experience?
« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2019, 06:35:51 AM »
I found when i chew an entire berry the change is too sweet. When I gnaw that skin.
In fact the berries themself become sickenly sweet if I chew them too long.  My Bush makes larger berries than anywhere else I've gotten though, and they are coming right off the plant.  I recommend using half a berry and dispatching it quickly.

I love my oranges on them.  Im planting goji and noni directly due to my miracle berry for this reason. And looking for Soh Shang (goumi, silverberry)

Infact.. I'm looking for any sub acid, generally discarded undesired fruit. I figure miracle berry could make a fruit garden to die for

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Re: It's a Miracle... What's you favorite sour experience?
« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2019, 05:30:12 PM »
My neighbor has a sour variety Star fruit you absolutely cannot eat at any level. After eating the miracle fruit it tastes better than ordinary Carambola.

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Re: It's a Miracle... What's you favorite sour experience?
« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2019, 09:35:31 AM »
Awesome... I've been wanting to grow noni... I killed the first one due to frost I think.

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Re: It's a Miracle... What's you favorite sour experience?
« Reply #9 on: November 25, 2019, 04:09:02 PM »
And, has anyone else had the experience that it doesn't work for everyone?

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Re: It's a Miracle... What's you favorite sour experience?
« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2019, 08:48:46 AM »
I had a few berries that seemed like they were not as effective... overripe?

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Re: It's a Miracle... What's you favorite sour experience?
« Reply #11 on: November 28, 2019, 06:35:07 PM »
I found when i chew an entire berry the change is too sweet. When I gnaw that skin.
In fact the berries themself become sickenly sweet if I chew them too long.  My Bush makes larger berries than anywhere else I've gotten though, and they are coming right off the plant.  I recommend using half a berry and dispatching it quickly.

I love my oranges on them.  Im planting goji and noni directly due to my miracle berry for this reason. And looking for Soh Shang (goumi, silverberry)

Infact.. I'm looking for any sub acid, generally discarded undesired fruit. I figure miracle berry could make a fruit garden to die for

Well, the problem with using miracle berries that way is that it DOESN'T turn things sweet.  It only masks sour and bitter, which allows inherent sweetness to come through.  When I tried to use it to "sweeten" my coffee, all I got was weak, slightly coffee-flavored water.  So if something tastes icky but has no inherent sweetness, it may just turn it "blah". I have a feeling that may be the case with noni.  I have a few that are almost ripe, so I will have to try it!
That being said, keep us posted on anything that it DOES improve!

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Carolyn

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Re: It's a Miracle... What's you favorite sour experience?
« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2019, 04:53:25 PM »
This is how it works:
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In 1968, scientists isolated the active protein responsible for making things taste sweet. Because of its miraculous way of making things taste so good, the protein was dubbed miraculin. When miracle fruit is consumed, the miraculin in the berry binds to the taste buds on the tongue. A person has receptors on their taste buds that identify sweet, sour, bitter and savory tastes. Normally, if you were to eat a lemon, your sour receptors would start firing. You can learn more about what happens in How Taste Works. Under the influence of miraculin, however, the sweet receptors start signaling and suppress the sour tastes. The miraculin rewires the sweet receptors to temporarily identify acids as sugars.

If someone didn't get the effect they may have swallowed too fast or not  separated  the pulp from the seed and swished the pulp around in the mouth enough to coat the taste buds on the tongue.

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When the berry is consumed, it may not taste like much; it's been compared to a less flavorful cranberry [source: Farrell, Bracken]. Much of the berry is a bitter seed, but the little pulp that's there packs a big punch. To get the full effect, the berry's pulp should be held in the mouth for a minute and spread all over the tongue.

https://people.howstuffworks.com/flavor-tripping1.htm

 

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