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Annona cherimola scions and seeds for trade
« on: January 19, 2020, 09:15:07 AM »
Morning, everybody.
One of my colleagues may at this time have access to these various varieties of Annona Cherimola Scions for trade.

My colleague being himself registered on this forum you can go directly through him .
link :
http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=35958.0

He collected scions from among the 51 varieties of cherimoya below, the ones written in capital letters.
The 6 varieties written in lower case are not harvested, but if anyone is interested he can make the effort to go back.
The 45 varieties in uppercase are bagged and ready to be sent tomorrow Monday.

AFRICAN PRIDE

ANDERSON

ANDREWS

AZAPA II

BALWIN

BONITA CORONA

BOLIVIA 1

BRONCEADA

BURTON'S (favorite?)

Campas or compas

CARTER

CHIUNA 1

CHIUNA 2

CHIUNA 3

CHIUNA3 TEMPRANA

CHIUNA3 TARDIA

CHILENA

CORAZON

CUMBE

DELICIOSA

DUDOZA

EL BUMPO

ECUADOR

ECUATORIAN

ESPINOSA M

FINO de JETE

HALUZA

HILL

JOY

KNIGHT

LISA DE PUELLARO

LEON

LIBBY

LOCAL SERENA

LUCIDA

MOSSMAN

manteca

MIRA VISTA

MC PHERSON

MARIELLA

NE....

ORTON

OTT

PALIZZI

PERU SEED 24

pierce

pinchudo

RERETAI

SALMON

SICILIA 3

sabor

In exchange, he's mainly looking for the varieties:

Annona Selma ( with coloured flesh )


but you can make your proposals directly to him in PM but preferably with Annona.

Possible to exchange cold hardy Annona Cherimola seeds ( -5°C ) without damage with seeds:
Annona stenophylla
Annona neosalicifolia
Annona ubatubensis
Annona cacans
And dugetia furfuracea
« Last Edit: February 06, 2020, 06:18:20 AM by shiro »

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Re: Annona cherimola scions and seeds for trade
« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2020, 09:48:23 AM »
This message is an error on my part

« Last Edit: January 19, 2020, 04:50:05 PM by shiro »

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Re: Annona cherimola scions and seeds for trade
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2020, 01:29:04 AM »
I am the collector of this list, and i add 4 varieties i could share:

LOMA
SANTA ROSA
CARMELA
ESPAIN or SPAIN

seeds:
I saw price 1 € for 1 or 2 seeds depending variety, with minimum 10€ order.
I also have unnamed seeds, all from varieties but mixed, that could be 10€ for 30 seeds.
And seeds that are from all fino de Jete, from cultures without cross pollinisation by different varieties together: 10€ for 60 seeds for example.

https://paypal.me/fruitforestier

https://paypal.me/fruitforestier

I WILL maybe HAVE NO OTHER OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE THESE CHERIMOYAS IN THE FUTURE, BECAUSE I DON'T LIVE IN SPAIN WHERE i hope success them. I rarely go in spain where i want to complete this collection with your scions of Selma, dream,chaffey, honeyhart, and others cold hardy and coloured ones.

Thank you very much Shiro, so that anyone could write us both, cause i'm not everytime connected with internet, while i travell and sleep in my car.

 has someone experience to graft it? How long would ne the woods ?
On the topic you above gave link shiro i will put some grafting photos (fruit and seeds photos below on the present topic).

On south coast spain andalusia could i graft now, in january? on the other topic Shiro gave link, please share your grafting experience, i will share my cuttings.

and i can exchange or sell some cuttings, just tell me how large and long you need it.

witch ones will be cold hardy? flesh coloured?

thanks a lot! :)


« Last Edit: February 08, 2020, 11:37:40 PM by linsecte »

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Re: Annona cherimola scions and seeds for trade
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2020, 01:34:39 AM »
about cherimoya varieties, someone told me pierce is very good flavor, dr white cold hardy? selma pink flesh?

about grafting, how many time cuttings could be stored?

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Re: Annona cherimola scions and seeds for trade
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2020, 02:06:22 PM »
Pierce is great flavor, Dr. white is not more cold hardy , splits and drops when cold and rainy, HoneyHart and Licia have been cold hardy producers.
You can store in the fridge vegetable drawer for a week or two and then graft.

about cherimoya varieties, someone told me pierce is very good flavor, dr white cold hardy? selma pink flesh?

about grafting, how many time cuttings could be stored?

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Re: Annona cherimola scions and seeds for trade
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2020, 07:54:09 PM »
Chaffey tree is most cold tolerance, White tree is most heat tolerance.
Seedling of these cross has both features.

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Re: Annona cherimola scions and seeds for trade
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2020, 11:48:47 PM »
Thank you. Will someone provide me these cold tolerant varieties ?

later i will put photos of my varieties.

cuttings:
 I only exchange my cuttings of varieties, cause they cost me thousands euros so i cannot find a fair price, and my goal is to complete my collection.
When i'll success exchange, maybe after could sell, depends of what i agreed when exchange.

seeds:
I saw price 1 € for 1 or 2 seeds depending variety, with minimum 10€ order.
I also have unnamed seeds, all from varieties but mixed, that could be 10€ for 30 seeds.
And seeds that are from all fino de Jete, from cultures without cross pollinisation by different varieties together: 10€ for 60 seeds for example.

https://paypal.me/fruitforestier

they are in good conservation conditions but
this week i could take others that i didn't cut yet: varieties that are write in little caracters in the list if they are interesting?
« Last Edit: February 08, 2020, 11:37:05 PM by linsecte »

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Re: Annona cherimola scions and seeds for trade
« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2020, 02:00:45 AM »
Is El Bumpo or Sabor a better variety?
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Re: Annona cherimola scions and seeds for trade
« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2020, 05:26:39 AM »
For taste? Ricardo from portugal says Best flavor seems to be Pierce.
But i am waiting the fruits i took to ripe to write my feeling.
but cuttings are cut from sunday, so it will be to send quickly, or maybe i could take new ones, but not sure because it's very far from my house!

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Re: Annona cherimola scions and seeds for trade
« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2020, 05:56:28 AM »
i have good experience in exchange (fruitiers.net) and graft some species but no experience with cherimoya, but i keep them in better conditions in plastic not dirctly wet but in moist fresh atmosphere.
2 members writes they could be stored 1 wek or 2, but On the other topic (link above), Spaugh writes it is probably possible to keep them until march in refrigerator sealed with tape.
i have not specific experience with cherimoya to give any opinion.
but i have parafilm m, i could seal the cuttings i will send.
could also sell some parafilm m... if you want a few meters of.
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Re: Annona cherimola scions and seeds for trade
« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2020, 04:27:46 PM »
Pierce is great flavor, Dr. white is not more cold hardy , splits and drops when cold and rainy, HoneyHart and Licia have been cold hardy producers.
You can store in the fridge vegetable drawer for a week or two and then graft.

about cherimoya varieties, someone told me pierce is very good flavor, dr white cold hardy? selma pink flesh?

about grafting, how many time cuttings could be stored?

Do you think the flavor of pierce is better than el bumpo bush2beach?
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Re: Annona cherimola scions and seeds for trade
« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2020, 02:33:00 AM »
I have LOMA seeds, is it interesting for anything?

I only tasted 6 of all these 53 varieties... I wait maturation of some others but some varieties don't have any more fruits in the tree. I will soon put some photos of those i picked (here?).
and i didn't yet taste neither El BUMPO, neither PIERCE... there is no more el bumpo in the tree now, but i wait one pierce fruit to ripe!
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Re: Annona cherimola scions and seeds for trade
« Reply #12 on: January 23, 2020, 05:35:22 AM »
I also have
LOMA
SANTA ROSA
CARMELA
ESPAIN or SPAIN

i will put the photos in around 10 hours.
will someone accept exchange with me to complete our both collection?
« Last Edit: January 31, 2020, 02:35:07 AM by linsecte »

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« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2020, 10:36:58 PM »

When my samples ripes, below are m'y photos per variety, fruit seeds and description. On photo of seeds you could see how many seeds was on thé fruit.
each variety i will write "less sugar" when less than in fino de jete, "more sugar"  will mean more than in f de jete, and when i will not write anything about sugar will mean same as f de jete. Same for flavour, and fino de jete don't have nor sourness nor bitterness, so i will write something about only when it will be différent from f de jete. Same for texture when i will not write something about, means same yogourt texture as f de jete. Let me know if i could provide more information usefull for future identifications.
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« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2020, 11:19:35 PM »
Local Serena


I Bégin by one of the biggest varieties, thé fruit in my hand on thé above post. will complete this post on a few days, when m'y local Serena fruit will ripe. Adding then taste description and inside photo and seeds photo.

A few days after, the heart formation turned too ripe without being soft before. Is it because variety ?






A few days later i ate the other fruit, juicy but less sugar and taste than fj. Maybe unripe as it was still hard but one part started molding, it was touching à plastic bag that is not optimal
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« Reply #15 on: January 23, 2020, 11:30:56 PM »
Ott






Ott variety m'y first fruit was "more sugar" (i don't use the word sweet because it also means no sour no bitter). Means more sugar than fini de jete, but the second fruit was not so tasty.
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« Reply #16 on: January 23, 2020, 11:46:07 PM »
Hill






Difficult to say if it has maybe a little bit more taste than f jete
A few days later, yes the 2d was more juice and sugar than fj!








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« Reply #17 on: January 23, 2020, 11:52:38 PM »
Chiuna2






As you Can see on seeds photo, i use only half fruit seeds. Hard texture but bitter, i didn't want to finish eat the second part.

A few days later, surprise : an other fruit was very good, more sugar more flavour than fj, only a few seeds.

Chiuna3 was my best expérience, with a very little bit acidity that chiuna 1 and 2 didn't have.
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« Reply #18 on: January 23, 2020, 11:57:56 PM »
Bonita Corona







Was toi ripe a little bit alcoolic but éven like this it's a "more sugar" variety.

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« Reply #19 on: January 24, 2020, 12:15:16 AM »
Fino de jete

The usually cultivated on spain, fruiting from october to march...





Usually pale Green, but in a friend's place a few ones are more dark as compared on this photo. Dark ones have much more sugar, and in mouth seeds are little bit longer to séparate from flesh
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« Reply #20 on: January 24, 2020, 12:16:39 AM »
Ecuador
For hard flesh lovers.
A little bit difficult to know when fruit is ripe as he stays hard éven ripe. A lot of fruits, but no more hang on tree on january, as most varieties.

I have an error message that i cannot load any more photos because not enough memory, is it limited on thé forum topic ?

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« Reply #21 on: January 24, 2020, 06:07:02 AM »
Loma
Then ripening 3 insipide varieties... first Loma, no sugar no Flavie, hard flesh.






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« Reply #22 on: January 24, 2020, 06:10:44 AM »
Mossman
Probably champion of bigger seeds, no sugar no flavour,
Hard flesh







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« Reply #23 on: January 24, 2020, 06:14:09 AM »
Lisa de puellaro
Also nous sugar, no flavor and hard flesh, it has very low quantity of seeds but an other Big cherimoya variety has this particularité, with better taste.







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Re: Annona cherimola scions and seeds for trade
« Reply #24 on: January 25, 2020, 08:31:37 AM »
4xx
This is a code name of one of my unknown varieties. Similar fino de jete with less seeds. The quantity of seeds on photo belongs to the open fruit, as on my other publications.





 

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