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Local invasive species most concerning to you?
« on: January 24, 2020, 07:55:31 PM »
Plecostomus have a distinctive dorsal sailfin, dark body
covered in bony armor. Unlike native catfishes, the mouth consists
of a sucking disk and rasping plates. As they
forage, they disrupt the food chain, reduce food availability for native species, outcompete
native herbivores, and incidentally consume the eggs of other fishes. Their foraging activity
also uproots native plants, altering aquatic plant communities. These hardy invaders face
few threats in Florida, as they tolerate moderate salinity, gulp air when deprived oxygen is
low, and build burrows that allow them to
withstand cold and drought. Their burrows
destabilize shorelines and significantly increase
erosion and turbidity in infested rivers.
In addition, the spiny dorsal fins of
these fish also pose a mortal danger to endangered,
fish-eating birds.  They are in almost every lake pond waterway in central florida



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Re: Local invasive species most concerning to you?
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2020, 08:19:02 PM »
Aren't these the "algae eaters" in basically every freshwater aquarium?

I live in the epicenter of the Spotted Lanternfly invasion.  A moth that sucks sap from trees.  However they don't seem the least bit interested in any of my fruit trees, temperate or exotic.  I dunno what they are eating, but it isn't anything I am cultivating.  The japanese beetles are much worse and ravage my stone fruit trees.

Spotted Lanternfly

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Re: Local invasive species most concerning to you?
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2020, 08:32:36 PM »
Brazilian peppertree (Schinus terebinthifolia). Its everywhere. Even pushes new growth in the winter  :-\  .
The Earth laughs in flowers. And bear gifts through fruits.
No where to plant it...but atleast I got it. ;)
F*ck squirrels
and deers

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Re: Local invasive species most concerning to you?
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2020, 08:42:06 PM »
My mother inlaw  :o
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Re: Local invasive species most concerning to you?
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2020, 08:58:39 PM »
Brazilian peppertree (Schinus terebinthifolia). Its everywhere. Even pushes new growth in the winter  :-\  .

 highly allergenic




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« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2020, 09:09:13 PM »
Aren't these the "algae eaters" in basically every freshwater aquarium?

I live in the epicenter of the Spotted Lanternfly invasion.  A moth that sucks sap from trees.  However they don't seem the least bit interested in any of my fruit trees, temperate or exotic.  I dunno what they are eating, but it isn't anything I am cultivating.  The japanese beetles are much worse and ravage my stone fruit trees.

Spotted Lanternfly


Very interesting! best of luck and yes you are correct sir!!! :)









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Re: Local invasive species most concerning to you?
« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2020, 10:22:59 PM »
Chinese privet (Ligustrum sinense)
It spreads by seed, root, and even cut stems if they touch the soil.

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Re: Local invasive species most concerning to you?
« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2020, 10:35:56 PM »
The sea walnut  ;D.

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Re: Local invasive species most concerning to you?
« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2020, 10:59:48 PM »
Wow i am glad you shared.i was thinking they grew on trees





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Re: Local invasive species most concerning to you?
« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2020, 11:53:15 PM »
This is the predator of the sea walnut.I like the predators .
https://youtu.be/1xkNPp6mzzI

I like these soo much that i want to keep them at home  ;D.
Been building a special pelagic aquarium like a fridge ,double glass isolated.Cold and dark .Its called ,,the nuclear winter deep sea aquarium,, and i presented it on Reefcentral but i got banned for life because of ecology debates about phosphorus .
Il also keep deep sea fish, bioluminscent at home ( Photobleparon Palpebratus or/and Anomalops Katoptron if i find them in small sizes).
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Re: Local invasive species most concerning to you?
« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2020, 12:26:44 AM »
Pompous grass, mexican feather grass, scotch broom in California.

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Re: Local invasive species most concerning to you?
« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2020, 08:27:00 AM »
Ambrosia beetle death to avocado:
http://vscnews.com/ambrosia-beetles-bring-trouble-avocados/

Psyllid borne Huangbinglong death to citrus:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citrus_greening_disease

A cautionary tale-
My father was old enough to recall to me some of the 4 billion American Chestnuts which once majestically covered (1 of every 4 trees) across 200 million acres, much of the Eastern US. This species which had existed 40 million years was totally wiped out, perhaps one of the biggest forest losses of modern history:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xgbedXnbfw


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Re: Local invasive species most concerning to you?
« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2020, 08:54:35 AM »
Huisache and mesquite in South Texas. The reason we have a bulldozer. D

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Re: Local invasive species most concerning to you?
« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2020, 09:04:29 AM »
Ambrosia beetle death to avocado:
http://vscnews.com/ambrosia-beetles-bring-trouble-avocados/

Psyllid borne Huangbinglong death to citrus:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citrus_greening_disease

A cautionary tale-
My father was old enough to recall to me some of the 4 billion American Chestnuts which once majestically covered (1 of every 4 trees) across 200 million acres, much of the Eastern US. This species which had existed 40 million years was totally wiped out, perhaps one of the biggest forest losses of modern history:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xgbedXnbfw

Next on the list is the butternut ( walnut).
Appalachia flora its ,,made in China,, but evolved separatedly .Because of that ,pests from China are verry dangerous for it.
But the salvation also comes from China by hibridising almost identical species and make resistant hibrids as it is in the case of the butternut.

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Re: Local invasive species most concerning to you?
« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2020, 09:58:58 AM »
Sudden oak death, which is killing most of the tan oaks and other oak species in California.
Hedera helix, ditrichia graveolens, cytisus scoparius, etc.

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« Reply #15 on: January 25, 2020, 10:27:01 AM »
Being high desert, we escape many of the things that could wipe out my greenhouse, if my plants were growing in a REAL zone 10-12.
But feral hogs, zebra mussels, and puncture vine (goat head thorns) are pretty bad!!

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Re: Local invasive species most concerning to you?
« Reply #16 on: January 25, 2020, 11:20:48 AM »
Nobody mentioned the tree of heaven,ailanthus.
For a plant,i think this is the most world wide spread.

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« Reply #17 on: January 25, 2020, 11:35:40 AM »
Being high desert, we escape many of the things that could wipe out my greenhouse, if my plants were growing in a REAL zone 10-12.
But feral hogs, zebra mussels, and puncture vine (goat head thorns) are pretty bad!!

Carolyn

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Re: Local invasive species most concerning to you?
« Reply #18 on: January 25, 2020, 03:29:39 PM »
anything non-edible, plants or animals are invasive.  If I can eat it , it's food.

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« Reply #19 on: January 26, 2020, 12:00:33 AM »
There seems to be some great work being done for the restoration of the American Chestnut to the eastern forest.  Hey maybe in my children's lifetime!  https://www.acf.org/
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« Reply #20 on: January 26, 2020, 08:28:56 AM »
My mother inlaw  :o

..and kids, little crumbbuggers eat everything, tear stuff up, hog the tv, take all the money, and still complain.

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« Reply #21 on: January 26, 2020, 09:16:29 AM »
My mother inlaw  :o

..and kids, little crumbbuggers eat everything, tear stuff up, hog the tv, take all the money, and still complain.
But we love 'em to death! ;D (Mother-in-law maybe not so much, but I love mine, an all-around better person than my mother was--may she rest in peace.)
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« Reply #22 on: January 26, 2020, 12:50:27 PM »
Being high desert, we escape many of the things that could wipe out my greenhouse, if my plants were growing in a REAL zone 10-12.
But feral hogs, zebra mussels, and puncture vine (goat head thorns) are pretty bad!!

Carolyn

Wild Hogs in Florida wreak havoc on land in just about every area of the state.


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« Reply #23 on: January 26, 2020, 01:29:24 PM »
Sudden oak death, which is killing most of the tan oaks and other oak species in California.
Hedera helix, ditrichia graveolens, cytisus scoparius, etc.
Sudden oak death and ramorum blight are emerging diseases capable of causing a range of symptoms, from leaf spots to plant death, on many woody hosts. Because these diseases are emerging, much about the pathogen, host range, and disease epidemiology is currently being researched. The pathogen was introduced into the state through ornamental plant commerce, but eradication efforts have reduced the pathogen to below detectable levels. Only the foliar dieback disease ramorum blight has occurred in Florida in the past; no oak trees have died in Florida from sudden oak death. Currently, neither sudden oak death nor ramorum blight is established in Florida


Sudden oak death is a disease of oak trees caused by an invasive plant pathogen, Phytophthora ramorum. It currently occurs in coastal California counties from Monterey to Humboldt and in a small portion of southwest Oregon. It is estimated to have killed more than 1 million oak and tanoak trees during the last decade.
Heartbreaking  :(

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« Reply #24 on: January 26, 2020, 02:27:45 PM »
JAPANESE BEETLES are wreaking havoc on soft fleshed fruits and veggies here in Southern California, especially stone fruit trees. The worst part is they lay their eggs in your soil, the nematodes that are born then eat your roots, decomposing material, and whatever else they can, then hatch in the spring, and the cycle starts all over again. It also seems like every year they are growing in numbers and there are more beetles than the previous year.

Does anyone know of a predatory/beneficial insect that will eat/destroy the nematodes before they get the chance to hatch into beetles? Iíve tried everything on the beetles but they seem pretty bulletproof.


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