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Trying to make an escape from the craphole called Facebook
« on: February 15, 2020, 12:53:39 AM »
The fruit groups on FB seem devoid of any substance. This place seems like a reasonable place to post. Are there folks here from Hawaii or similar tropical climates or are most people here from the US mainland? Really looking for folks to exchange knowledge. Our farm is nested in the rainforest and pastures on the lower southeastern slopes of Mauna Kea. Generally it's very moist with 90-100% humidity and daily precipitation and a very narrow temperature range from 62F to 80F all year, and a handful rare Mornings with lows in the upper 50's when the jet stream drops some arctic air down our way. Main commercial fruit crop are the American garcinia (achacha and Lucs), many artocarpus trees, cacao and cupuacu. Then I also do some hobby growing of hundreds of distinct odd tropical and temperate distinct fruit species just for biodiversity and experimentation sakes, I am very interested in tropical nuts and oily fruit like pili and so on. And I have a small experimental deciduous orchard on one of the North facing slopes on the farm that turns out to be surprisingly successful with producing low chill apples, peaches, blueberries and blueberries.

That's about it when it comes to fruits. I should mention the whole farm (45 acres) focuses on regenerative farming practices so we have herds of dairy cows and dairy goats for rapid regenerative nutrient cycling to create fertilizer, with commercial dairy production as a byproduct, so we also grow a ton of nitrogen fixing tropical fodder crops - trees, vines, ground covers and bushes.

FB has been stealing audiences from forums like these but the FB groups are superficial and of no substance. Hopefully I am not the only one who's figured this out and people here post frequently enough to make it more interesting. Thanks for reading.

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Re: Trying to make an escape from the craphole called Facebook
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2020, 01:53:23 AM »
Welcome to TFF!
Thats a big orchard you have there .
What tropical nut trees do you have? From Juglandaceae?
I also grow nut trees and was hoping to go on with northern pecans and walnuts but after i lost all the pecans i switched to almond trees.

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Re: Trying to make an escape from the craphole called Facebook
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2020, 07:27:29 AM »
FB has been stealing audiences from forums like these but the FB groups are superficial and of no substance. Hopefully I am not the only one who's figured this out and people here post frequently enough to make it more interesting. Thanks for reading.
You could narrow your focus and work to create a smaller group with less superficial stuff and more local or relevant substance. It is possible to do that on FB or elsewhere. I do both. There may be private groups already working in that direction.

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Re: Trying to make an escape from the craphole called Facebook
« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2020, 06:15:53 AM »
Welcome to the froum,

this place is surely better than FB. Nobody wants to steal you personal information here haha

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Re: Trying to make an escape from the craphole called Facebook
« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2020, 01:46:14 PM »
Welcome to TFF!
Thats a big orchard you have there .
What tropical nut trees do you have? From Juglandaceae?
I also grow nut trees and was hoping to go on with northern pecans and walnuts but after i lost all the pecans i switched to almond trees.

I grow tropical nuts, the only tropical Juglandaceae I am familiar with is the Andean walnut which I do grow but not for eating, but for botanical reasons since the fruit is rather dismal. Sounds like you are in a very cold climate compared to Hawaii. A lot of delicious nuts that we are unable to grow will do well in your climate, Tropical nuts in Romania sounds challenging, I am curious to learn if you actually do and which ones.

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Re: Trying to make an escape from the craphole called Facebook
« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2020, 01:48:43 PM »
Welcome to the froum,

this place is surely better than FB. Nobody wants to steal you personal information here haha

The problem with Facebook is that the notifications are so cluttered it's impossible to track discussions. I really could care less if x or y likes my posts, or if z did this, all I need is to get notified when there are replies to my comments or posts.

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« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2020, 03:00:31 PM »
Welcome to TFF!
Thats a big orchard you have there .
What tropical nut trees do you have? From Juglandaceae?
I also grow nut trees and was hoping to go on with northern pecans and walnuts but after i lost all the pecans i switched to almond trees.

I grow tropical nuts, the only tropical Juglandaceae I am familiar with is the Andean walnut which I do grow but not for eating, but for botanical reasons since the fruit is rather dismal. Sounds like you are in a very cold climate compared to Hawaii. A lot of delicious nuts that we are unable to grow will do well in your climate, Tropical nuts in Romania sounds challenging, I am curious to learn if you actually do and which ones.
The red husk tropical walnuts are endangered and its nice if you grow them .
There are otther tropical walnuts you can grow ( for botanical reasons) like Oreumunea and Alfaroa.
I grow carpathian walnuts ,almonds and i have somme gevuina seedlings ( proteaceae,related to macadamia).
I grow these rare ,giant walnut seeds.
« Last Edit: February 16, 2020, 03:05:58 PM by SeaWalnut »

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« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2020, 10:35:37 PM »
Wow, sounds like an amazing operation. No tropical almond? Its something I am trying here in Orlando area, gotten a seedling to year 2 so far.  Welcome to the forums, there are at least two other Hawaiian growers who frequent this page...I just cant remember them off hand even though I have ordered seeds from both. Your climate sounds like my perfect living temperature lol.

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Re: Trying to make an escape from the craphole called Facebook
« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2020, 10:42:01 PM »
Welcome to the froum,

this place is surely better than FB. Nobody wants to steal you personal information here haha

The problem with Facebook is that the notifications are so cluttered it's impossible to track discussions. I really could care less if x or y likes my posts, or if z did this, all I need is to get notified when there are replies to my comments or posts.

Fairly sure you can change your notification settings to clear that up, but agree that this forum is more helpful than most all of the FB groups.  There are more serious questions and discussions flying around on here and less empty pic sharing.

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Re: Trying to make an escape from the craphole called Facebook
« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2020, 09:13:13 PM »
Hi Axel,

I have property in Ecuador at 1400 meters that with a climate that sounds similar to yours. There are a few acres of trees apparently planted (by previous owner) for lumber that included some andean walnut. What do you mean when you say you grow it for botanical reasons- just because its a nice tree?

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Re: Trying to make an escape from the craphole called Facebook
« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2020, 10:24:30 PM »
The fruit groups on FB seem devoid of any substance. This place seems like a reasonable place to post. Are there folks here from Hawaii or similar tropical climates or are most people here from the US mainland? Really looking for folks to exchange knowledge. Our farm is nested in the rainforest and pastures on the lower southeastern slopes of Mauna Kea. Generally it's very moist with 90-100% humidity and daily precipitation and a very narrow temperature range from 62F to 80F all year, and a handful rare Mornings with lows in the upper 50's when the jet stream drops some arctic air down our way. Main commercial fruit crop are the American garcinia (achacha and Lucs), many artocarpus trees, cacao and cupuacu. Then I also do some hobby growing of hundreds of distinct odd tropical and temperate distinct fruit species just for biodiversity and experimentation sakes, I am very interested in tropical nuts and oily fruit like pili and so on. And I have a small experimental deciduous orchard on one of the North facing slopes on the farm that turns out to be surprisingly successful with producing low chill apples, peaches, blueberries and blueberries.

That's about it when it comes to fruits. I should mention the whole farm (45 acres) focuses on regenerative farming practices so we have herds of dairy cows and dairy goats for rapid regenerative nutrient cycling to create fertilizer, with commercial dairy production as a byproduct, so we also grow a ton of nitrogen fixing tropical fodder crops - trees, vines, ground covers and bushes.

FB has been stealing audiences from forums like these but the FB groups are superficial and of no substance. Hopefully I am not the only one who's figured this out and people here post frequently enough to make it more interesting. Thanks for reading.

Axel,

Welcome to the forum. Was CloudForest your website? Lots of great information used to be on that website. What happened to it?

It's great having someone with your level of knowledge and experience join the forum. Hopefully, you like it here and continue to post.

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Re: Trying to make an escape from the craphole called Facebook
« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2020, 01:44:37 AM »
On one hand, I would love for all the fruit discussion to leave Facebook and move to a public forum like this one, mainly so it can be indexed by search engines. On the other hand, Facebook is so much more active than any other fruit forum I have been a part of.
« Last Edit: February 20, 2020, 11:46:54 AM by joehewitt »

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Re: Trying to make an escape from the craphole called Facebook
« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2020, 06:18:17 AM »
Wow, sounds like an amazing operation. No tropical almond? Its something I am trying here in Orlando area, gotten a seedling to year 2 so far.  Welcome to the forums, there are at least two other Hawaiian growers who frequent this page...I just cant remember them off hand even though I have ordered seeds from both. Your climate sounds like my perfect living temperature lol.
Tropical almond grows wild all along the coast here, so not much incentive to plant it.
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Re: Trying to make an escape from the craphole called Facebook
« Reply #13 on: February 22, 2020, 05:33:01 AM »
All I see on my FB is sexy Jaboticaba! #Plinia, Myrciaria Group

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« Reply #14 on: February 22, 2020, 09:01:59 AM »
I donít do FB or any social media , This Forum has provided me the knowledge to grow successfully my trees and even learned how to Graft .

Welcome aboard!

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« Reply #15 on: February 22, 2020, 12:30:15 PM »
Welcome to TFF!
Thats a big orchard you have there .
What tropical nut trees do you have? From Juglandaceae?
I also grow nut trees and was hoping to go on with northern pecans and walnuts but after i lost all the pecans i switched to almond trees.

I grow tropical nuts, the only tropical Juglandaceae I am familiar with is the Andean walnut which I do grow but not for eating, but for botanical reasons since the fruit is rather dismal. Sounds like you are in a very cold climate compared to Hawaii. A lot of delicious nuts that we are unable to grow will do well in your climate, Tropical nuts in Romania sounds challenging, I am curious to learn if you actually do and which ones.
The red husk tropical walnuts are endangered and its nice if you grow them .
There are otther tropical walnuts you can grow ( for botanical reasons) like Oreumunea and Alfaroa.
I grow carpathian walnuts ,almonds and i have somme gevuina seedlings ( proteaceae,related to macadamia).
I grow these rare ,giant walnut seeds.


Wow these look great!  I am also trying to grow various nuts in Belize, Zone 14.  I just recently got seeds for juglans olanchana and hoping for good germination.  Do you have any recommendations on other Juglandaceae that may do well in my climate? 

 

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