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« Reply #50 on: May 28, 2020, 12:43:23 AM »
Look at Quatar.The infectious rate per 1 mil population its the biggest in the world and its a warm country.
This comes to aid my theory about pollen competing with coronavirus because Quatar has not manny flowers and the pollen in the air its low because this country its located in a desert.
The death rate with only 30 cases for 45000 covid 19 cases looks ,,engineered,, like one would expect to find in such dictatorship ( i cant even call it dictatorship actually).
Just see the facts for yourselves https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Dont forget that Qatar may be a hot country but
1 humidity is also high which doesnt help with the virus
2 most people stay indoors exacly because its hot and with aircon the same air circulates so the infections mostly occur in buildings
3 also the tests done are high compered to other countries. For example countries such as Brazil have around 50% of test turn out positive

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« Reply #51 on: May 28, 2020, 06:03:51 AM »
Look at Quatar.The infectious rate per 1 mil population its the biggest in the world and its a warm country.
This comes to aid my theory about pollen competing with coronavirus because Quatar has not manny flowers and the pollen in the air its low because this country its located in a desert.
The death rate with only 30 cases for 45000 covid 19 cases looks ,,engineered,, like one would expect to find in such dictatorship ( i cant even call it dictatorship actually).
Just see the facts for yourselves https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Dont forget that Qatar may be a hot country but
1 humidity is also high which doesnt help with the virus
2 most people stay indoors exacly because its hot and with aircon the same air circulates so the infections mostly occur in buildings
3 also the tests done are high compered to other countries. For example countries such as Brazil have around 50% of test turn out positive
The comparison with otther countryes that they made more tests is just a scapegoat.
30 death from covid 19 with 45000 cases? Thats cover up.
Bit at least they didnt hide the numbers wich proove my theory that because they have no flowering plants ,covid 19 develops better there.
Its on par with my asumption about MERS wich only spread to Saudi Arabia,another country with no flowering plants and pollen in the air.

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« Reply #52 on: July 03, 2020, 11:06:37 AM »
https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/poliomyelitis/facts
Just IMO interpretation of the above but read it to get your own view of the data.
Polio virus had a lot of similar characteristics to Covid-19 before the polio vaccine became available. Extremely contagious, asymptomatic to most of the population when infected, but deadly to many in specific segments of the population (the young).

A primary difference was the middle aged & elderly being usually asymptomatic with low death and permanent injury.

The young school children especially under the age of 10 were thought to be almost 100% infected before vaccine with many having mild symptoms and some asymptomatic but the few who were severe had Mortality from muscle paralysis and some survived with permanent muscle paralysis in different body locations.

Hopefully with covid 19 the at risk of MORTALITY groups will be protected until the vaccine becomes available.

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« Reply #53 on: July 03, 2020, 07:39:19 PM »
Right now they closed the small supermarket across the street where i live,for disinfection.
Somebody had covid 19 there.
In my city we had few cases and we got down to 0 right after i healed.
All was soo good due to the army and police enforcing the stay at home orders and wearing masks ,combined with the arrival of spring and trees flowering( pollen).
Now we have a lot more cases in my city,probably 500 without counting the soo called asimptomatics like me .
I think we should close again all restorants and travels ,reinforce the previous hard rules ,because it will be even worse .

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« Reply #54 on: July 04, 2020, 10:59:06 AM »
I think we should close again all restorants and travels ,reinforce the previous hard rules ,because it will be even worse .
If a vaccine will not be available till 2021, I'm more for protecting the elderly & high risk of mortality groups to decrease a rising death count....

I'm tired of the prolonged restrictions and prefer getting on with life and allow others not high at risk of Mortality, the freedom of choice.... Normal freedom of choice should allow this virus to pass through those rapidly..... As long as deaths do not spike is my concern. I am much less concerned with % rise in healthy people being infected with low chance of mortality... This should allow a quicker passing & return to more of a normal.....

Since so so so long for development, there is NO GUARANTEE that when the final death count is taken after a vaccine is developed & administered to those desiring to be vaccinated that there will be less lives lost by attempting preventative measures (we never get 100% vaccination in the U.S. as always some object & will again).... There is only a GUARANTEE that current precautions to all groups will prolong the time for the virus to spread through available non isolated populations (keep at high risk of mortality groups isolated). 

If enough low risk of mortality groups decide to express their freedom of choice & mingle & become innoculated, this group if large enough may slow a second wave in the winter before the vaccine becomes available.

Just IMO.... And no it will not happen.... It will be a slow long long agonizing process. We will slowly see the population become gradually more & more infected.... Eventually it will get probably be close to 90% is my guess and then transmission will probably almost cease with the immunity in the 90% of the population helping to protect the other 10% which were hopefully the high risk of mortality groups including the elderly....



If you were in control on decreasing deaths in your country would it be easier to totally isolate those high at risk of Mortality for 2 months or try try try try try try try try try try try try to isolate them for 12 months while a vaccine is being developed....

The 2 month choice would be with healthy low risk of mortality choice to wear a mask & distance or not and just mingle (while keeping high risk of mortality & elderly totally isolated).....

Just a thought as final death counts could possibly be higher in either choice as unknown.... If medical facilities are available to handle cases & it seems facilities are available for the healthy low risk increasing in cases infected so far in the U.S. as not overwhelming available medical resources with less severe percentages of that population.

It is known that if in control of your country, a 2 month choice would allow less productivity losses.
However, unknown if higher or lower loss of life. The advocates  for shutdown and isolation tend to claim it would save lives but I question that case as long as high risk of mortality groups are kept isolated & medical resources are available & not overwhelmed.... Unknown... & Just a thought...

Then again, unknown if a 2 month would be ample time... Then again, would a 12 month.... Then again, even if a 12  or 14 month is enough time, All will never be vaccinated as many will refuse....

Thus in the end, life & death goes on regardless of choices... Hope for the best... And whatever that is is unknown....

Influenza even with it's vaccine available, does continue & continue & continue to kill thousands yearly.....

Obviously, I'm bored & little to do but type on this July 4 "independence day" Holiday in the U.S......



Why do I think a 2 month let the healthy population low risk of mortality groups mingle would rapidly spread the virus & eventual immunity? 
Watch nature TV, the urge to reproduce is one of the strongest urges that even suppresses the desire to eat or the fear of mortality.... Thus, Mingling will always occur,.... Can't be stopped.... only slowed.... The mature Rams etc. will butt heads to compete for the affection of the females.... Regardless of hunger or fear of death...... As soon as possible...... It's expected, it's life....and it's death.... but it's living free.....
« Last Edit: July 04, 2020, 05:48:44 PM by palmcity »

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« Reply #55 on: July 08, 2020, 09:14:36 AM »
One of the most feared U.S. virus was Poliovirus in the late 40's. https://www.historyofvaccines.org/content/articles/history-polio-poliomyelitis        In about 95% of all polio cases, the person has no symptoms at all. These are known as asymptomatic cases. The rest of polio cases can be divided into three types: abortive polio, non-paralytic polio, and paralytic polio.....                   In severe cases of paralytic polio, the throat and chest may be paralyzed. Death may result if the patient does not receive artificial breathing support. Between 2%-5% of children affected with paralytic polio die, whereas for adults, 15%-30% die.               https://www.cdc.gov/polio/what-is-polio/polio-us.html      In the late 1940s, polio outbreaks in the U.S. increased in frequency and size, crippling an average of more than 35,000 people each year.
Polio Elimination in the U.S.

CDC.GOV
Polio Elimination in the U.S.
The U.S. is polio-free, thanks to a successful vaccination program.



I'm very happy the covid 19 virus is not targeting high mortality or high morbidity in young Children as the percentage is much lower on mortality/morbidity today vs. the 40's Poliomyelitis virus epidemics.... I'm sure todays parents/grandparents are also thankful.

Interesting to compare to 2 Virus Epidemics mortality/morbidity/infections as percentage of population....
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« Reply #56 on: July 11, 2020, 10:44:56 PM »
Good news for people,China made vaccine based on real coronavirus ( covid 19) ,had entered phase 3 trial,2 weeks ago,in Brasil and somme arab countryes.
Thousands of people are vaccinated and it seems its effective but it will take a few months to see if the cases drop in those countryes areas where the vaccine is tested.
Its 100% efficient after 2 vaccines in 28 days.
By the end of the year or the beginning of the next year,they say it will be available for everybody.
We dont hear it from news in the west because its made in China but i think this is good news even for me wich il not get vaccinated because i am allready immune from covid.

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« Reply #58 on: July 16, 2020, 08:57:40 AM »
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/07/200714171338.htm
Nice but overengineered and from what ive read ,that method hasnt been used in any vaccine by now.
On the otther hand,the chinese vaccine its trusty ,made from real covid 19 and by using the oldest,best known and most reliable vaccine developing method.
Its also in phase 3 close to finish.
I dont need vaccine but id pick the chinese vaccine if id had to .

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« Reply #59 on: July 29, 2020, 09:54:36 PM »
So what are you trying to boost your immune system with and or fight inculcation of covid 19?
 I feel like a mad scientist  brewing up elixirs.Maitake ,reishi ,cordyceps some things are growing here or in my yard,Rhodomyrtus tomentosa,curry leaf,oregano ,turmeric I dry these and grind to powder.
 Besides eating well fruits ,greens ,vegetables what are you folks doing or suggest?I have two parents with me that are old 90 ,91.
Guinea hen weed I use as a tea https://www.researchgate.net/publication/280758688_Petiveria_alliacea_L_Guinea_Hen_Weed_and_Its_Major_Metabolite_Dibenzyl_Trisulfide_Demonstrate_HIV-1_Reverse_Transcriptase_Inhibitory_Activity

 

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