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Re: "Har's List of Supremely Delicious Mango Varieties"
« Reply #25 on: April 12, 2020, 09:49:10 AM »
y? Because the branches have more of a tendency to droop when they get long?

I wonder what the main differences are between LZ and Orange Sherbet.  I remember Har tasting it and liking it last summer.

On their best days , LZ is sweeter. But I like orange sherbet as a tree much better.
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Re: "Har's List of Supremely Delicious Mango Varieties"
« Reply #26 on: April 12, 2020, 10:18:34 AM »
y? Because the branches have more of a tendency to droop when they get long?

I wonder what the main differences are between LZ and Orange Sherbet.  I remember Har tasting it and liking it last summer.

On their best days , LZ is sweeter. But I like orange sherbet as a tree much better.

Orange Sherbet trees tend to be more compact and less vigorous than LZ in my experience, produce more consistently and the fruit is much more resistant to MBBS.

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Re: "Har's List of Supremely Delicious Mango Varieties"
« Reply #27 on: April 12, 2020, 10:28:37 AM »
Mark what is PGR?

Mark knows all the fancy chords. This one seems to have started with marijuana growers.

PGR must be this:
https://www.bing.com/search?q=PGR+fertilizer&go=Search&qs=ds&form=QBRE

Are Plant Growth Regulators (PGRs) Safe? | Planet Natural
https://www.planetnatural.com/plant-growth-regulators
Note: In the last couple years, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) has decided that naturally derived liquid kelp and seaweed products must be registered as plant growth regulators (PGR). The designation seems odd to us. After all, we’ve been using kelp fertilizers on …

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Re: "Har's List of Supremely Delicious Mango Varieties"
« Reply #28 on: April 12, 2020, 11:49:59 AM »
Mark what is PGR?

Mark knows all the fancy chords. This one seems to have started with marijuana growers.

PGR must be this:
https://www.bing.com/search?q=PGR+fertilizer&go=Search&qs=ds&form=QBRE

I think he used paclobutrazol like many many mangofarmers do. But you should use it after the mangotree has given fruit.

Are Plant Growth Regulators (PGRs) Safe? | Planet Natural
https://www.planetnatural.com/plant-growth-regulators
Note: In the last couple years, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) has decided that naturally derived liquid kelp and seaweed products must be registered as plant growth regulators (PGR). The designation seems odd to us. After all, we’ve been using kelp fertilizers on …

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Re: "Har's List of Supremely Delicious Mango Varieties"
« Reply #29 on: April 12, 2020, 12:53:43 PM »
Interesting. Both of mine (grafted to a old glenn) grow with incredible vigor. I remember Walter's tree being huge as well. Wonder if there is some rootstock influence there.

y? Because the branches have more of a tendency to droop when they get long?

I wonder what the main differences are between LZ and Orange Sherbet.  I remember Har tasting it and liking it last summer.

On their best days , LZ is sweeter. But I like orange sherbet as a tree much better.

Orange Sherbet trees tend to be more compact and less vigorous than LZ in my experience, produce more consistently and the fruit is much more resistant to MBBS.
Jeff  :-)

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Re: "Har's List of Supremely Delicious Mango Varieties"
« Reply #30 on: April 12, 2020, 04:29:53 PM »
Interesting. Both of mine (grafted to a old glenn) grow with incredible vigor. I remember Walter's tree being huge as well. Wonder if there is some rootstock influence there.

y? Because the branches have more of a tendency to droop when they get long?

I wonder what the main differences are between LZ and Orange Sherbet.  I remember Har tasting it and liking it last summer.

On their best days , LZ is sweeter. But I like orange sherbet as a tree much better.

Orange Sherbet trees tend to be more compact and less vigorous than LZ in my experience, produce more consistently and the fruit is much more resistant to MBBS.

Probably because they were topworks, although we do have two top-worked Orange Sherbets that haven’t been too bad for their rate of growth.

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Re: "Har's List of Supremely Delicious Mango Varieties"
« Reply #31 on: April 12, 2020, 11:47:53 PM »
Yep, great resource and a humble man.  After losing 2 of 3 large branches of Orange Sherbet attached at the same point on the trunk of a cocktail tree Har pointed out that it's too much weight bearing for such a single point.  Alternate branching is the only way to go on mango.

To be honest I haven't really tasted a bad mango coming out of Florida whether I grew it or ordered a box from Alex year after year.  I also LOVE Glenn which bought from PIN. I have a graft/branch of Fruit Punch on it.

I know these are Har's faves but there's lots good ones like Sweet Tart and Pineapple Pleasure too. 

My first Glenn.  The super sweet almost nauseating tropical aroma that comes from this fruit is unreal.  Had to move it away from my computer it's so strong.  Great texture and taste.



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Where do you get mangoes from? Who is this Alex guy lol

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Re: "Har's List of Supremely Delicious Mango Varieties"
« Reply #32 on: April 13, 2020, 08:07:24 AM »
Mark what is PGR?


Plant growth regulator.  I use paclobutrazol.  Just ran out of Bonzi, bought another brand. http://www.clo2india.net.in/paclobutrazol-for-vegetables-fruits-1816648.html

It has been and is currently applied to veggies and fruits in other countries to increase yields or quality and induce tree compaction.  Only approved for use on ornementals in the U.S., which is pretty stupid.  Aussies always apply paclo to their avocado orchards, Indians to their mango orchards, etc.


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Re: "Har's List of Supremely Delicious Mango Varieties"
« Reply #33 on: April 13, 2020, 08:12:29 AM »
Where do you get mangoes from? Who is this Alex guy lol

You are kidding?  https://www.tropicalacresfarms.com/shop

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Re: "Har's List of Supremely Delicious Mango Varieties"
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Re: "Har's List of Supremely Delicious Mango Varieties"
« Reply #35 on: April 13, 2020, 11:09:47 AM »
I want to see a Har top 10 annona video next!

THAT WOULD BE AWESOME.

I agree with HAR love Carries but is any Mango tougher to pick correctly?

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Re: "Har's List of Supremely Delicious Mango Varieties"
« Reply #36 on: April 13, 2020, 12:21:56 PM »
I want to see a Har top 10 annona video next!

THAT WOULD BE AWESOME.

I agree with HAR love Carries but is any Mango tougher to pick correctly?

For me, Mallika is the hardest to pick.


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Re: "Har's List of Supremely Delicious Mango Varieties"
« Reply #37 on: April 13, 2020, 05:12:10 PM »
Have you tried picking Mallika when the color STARTS to break towards yellow?  If I pick when the shoulder has some yellow and give them a week to 10 days they are great. If they are more than 25% yellow when picked they can sometimes have some carrot overtones. One year I picked some later that were over 75% yellow. After a couple days on table they actually tasted like orange creamsicles. Only in that one instance have I ever tasted citrus/vanilla flavor from that variety.
If you pick them near fully colored they are 50-50 might taste fine or may have the mango death funky flavor.

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Re: "Har's List of Supremely Delicious Mango Varieties"
« Reply #38 on: April 15, 2020, 11:02:55 PM »
I want to see a Har top 10 annona video next!

THAT WOULD BE AWESOME.

I agree with HAR love Carries but is any Mango tougher to pick correctly?

For my Carrie tree once I see they grow good width at the shoulders along the stem, they are good to go. Also, if you are able to reach and bend the mango up 90 degrees they should fall off when ready. Which is not the case with others like peach cobbler which was nearly impossible for me to figure out how to pick last year.

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« Reply #39 on: April 17, 2020, 12:07:37 PM »
For me, Mallika is the hardest to pick.

Taste like a carrot to me.  It now hosts Zill varieties.

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Re: "Har's List of Supremely Delicious Mango Varieties"
« Reply #40 on: April 18, 2020, 08:01:52 PM »
I did mean to include Pineapple Pleasure on this list.  Forgot--- probably because I have tasted it only two or three times--- it usually doesn't fruit well.
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« Reply #41 on: April 19, 2020, 09:10:16 AM »
I did mean to include Pineapple Pleasure on this list.  Forgot--- probably because I have tasted it only two or three times--- it usually doesn't fruit well.
But is that it, Har?  Only nine varieties?
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« Reply #42 on: April 19, 2020, 10:42:45 AM »
For me, Mallika is the hardest to pick.

Taste like a carrot to me.  It now hosts Zill varieties.

I have had a few like that. But if properly picked, I think it is as good as any of the new Zill varieties.

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Re: "Har's List of Supremely Delicious Mango Varieties"
« Reply #43 on: April 19, 2020, 11:04:13 AM »
A properly ripened Mallika is very similar in flavor to Lemon Zest.

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« Reply #44 on: April 19, 2020, 01:23:34 PM »
A properly ripened Mallika is very similar in flavor to Lemon Zest.
Whoa!  Really, Alex?
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« Reply #45 on: April 20, 2020, 08:53:35 AM »
A properly ripened Mallika is very similar in flavor to Lemon Zest.

Got a source for some of dat good ol camel dung?   ;D  I thought PIN was kidding including it in their description.

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« Reply #46 on: April 20, 2020, 10:52:46 AM »
A properly ripened Mallika is very similar in flavor to Lemon Zest.

Got a source for some of dat good ol camel dung?   ;D  I thought PIN was kidding including it in their description.
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« Reply #47 on: April 20, 2020, 12:45:43 PM »
I did mean to include Pineapple Pleasure on this list.  Forgot--- probably because I have tasted it only two or three times--- it usually doesn't fruit well.

Har, it would be great to see a video of supremely delicious Mangos that are also productive and disease resistant.

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« Reply #48 on: April 20, 2020, 01:52:06 PM »
I did mean to include Pineapple Pleasure on this list.  Forgot--- probably because I have tasted it only two or three times--- it usually doesn't fruit well.

Har, it would be great to see a video of supremely delicious Mangos that are also productive and disease resistant.

Simon
Ha!  Maybe no such thing.  On the list I see only 2 that might qualify.  PKM and OE?  We might have to settle for "Almost Supremely Delicious, but Productive and Disease Resistant!"  And for Californians it might be a different group altogether.
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« Reply #49 on: April 20, 2020, 09:57:41 PM »
I did mean to include Pineapple Pleasure on this list.  Forgot--- probably because I have tasted it only two or three times--- it usually doesn't fruit well.

Har, it would be great to see a video of supremely delicious Mangos that are also productive and disease resistant.

Simon

Brahm kai meu is very disease resistant i can tell...i grow these tree's and they look like coming out of a japanese factory, everything is perfect on them. I have grown loads of other varieties as well and they always had many issues and never had perfect leaves like BKM.

But i still have to eat this mango, when i pruned this tree it smelled really good, strong complicated mango smell so i have high hopes for it. If only it would fruit more easy.

Lately i have many small bee's on the new flushes of my keo sawoei mango, the bee's must really like them for some reason. The BKM tree's is next to it and flushing but the bee's won't go to that one...both are good green mango varieties so i wonder what the bee's can smell.


Ha!  Maybe no such thing.  On the list I see only 2 that might qualify.  PKM and OE?  We might have to settle for "Almost Supremely Delicious, but Productive and Disease Resistant!"  And for Californians it might be a different group altogether.

 

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