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Advice needed on topworking large sapodilla tree
« on: April 16, 2020, 07:50:10 AM »
Hi all. We have 4 giant seedling sapodilla trees on our property all of which produce lots of excellent fruit. But Iím curious to try a cultivated variety and had the opportunity to bring down a small Molix. One of our trees is especially tall and produces less than the others with most of the fruit too high to reach, so we decided it was a good candidate to cut back and graft at least a few branches with the Molix. Iíve done this successfully with citrus, mango and avocado but have never tried grafting sapodilla. Has anyone done this? How do you deal with the lŠtex? Any suggestions? Thanks in advance for your input.

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Re: Advice needed on topworking large sapodilla tree
« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2020, 08:00:31 AM »
Bump. Anyone?

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Re: Advice needed on topworking large sapodilla tree
« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2020, 11:44:14 AM »
And my last bump. Apparently no one topworks saps?

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Re: Advice needed on topworking large sapodilla tree
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2020, 04:56:22 PM »
And my last bump. Apparently no one topworks saps?

Most people are probably still waiting for theirs to fruit.


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Re: Advice needed on topworking large sapodilla tree
« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2020, 07:49:39 PM »
I've grafted sapodilla. The latex is tough to deal with so you need to work quickly to avoid too much latex.

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Re: Advice needed on topworking large sapodilla tree
« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2020, 08:05:17 PM »
Or have clean water to rinse with.
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Re: Advice needed on topworking large sapodilla tree
« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2020, 09:18:59 PM »
Or have clean water to rinse with.

That too! I dipped in water after each cut.

Do you know of any chemicals that could be added to the water to stop the latex?

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Re: Advice needed on topworking large sapodilla tree
« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2020, 07:38:22 AM »
Aha water rinsing! Do you pat dry after rinsing or just leave it wet to graft?

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Re: Advice needed on topworking large sapodilla tree
« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2020, 08:43:16 AM »
How large the tree,diameter?You may need to cut back and wait for regrowth and then graft as normal.That is how I did a couple of mine, but the wood I cut back was only around 8 inches diameter.

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Re: Advice needed on topworking large sapodilla tree
« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2020, 11:01:41 AM »
I graft sapodilla and donít really worry about the latex.  I use a cleft graft and the latex just gets shoved to the side.
I would cut the seedling off at 3-5í high and graft onto the sprouts.  Sapodilla is slow to push and needs to be enclosed in plastic, maybe with a little shade for at least 6 weeks.  I wouldnít be in a hurry to take the plastic off.
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Re: Advice needed on topworking large sapodilla tree
« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2020, 09:05:47 PM »
Thanks everyone thatís great information. Yes weíre cutting back the tree to the main trunk trying to make the tree more manageable, and Iíll graft the sprouts when they get woody but are still green. Thatís worked great for me with citrus, mango and avocado but Iím still worried about the latex with sapodilla - hard to believe it wonít interfere with the union.

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Re: Advice needed on topworking large sapodilla tree
« Reply #11 on: May 28, 2020, 07:50:18 PM »
Another question for you sapodilla grafters: do you prepare scions like we do for mango and avocado? Or what do you do to get ready to graft/select bud wood?

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Re: Advice needed on topworking large sapodilla tree
« Reply #12 on: May 28, 2020, 10:44:40 PM »
We select tips for scion material when it is barely starting to bud out new. Thatís the same as I do with mamey sapote and durian. Personally, I donít do anything to force the bud or prepare it I just keep an eye out for when it wants to grow.
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