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Going Big but not at home
« on: September 18, 2020, 11:04:06 PM »
Well chums this morning I had a look around town and saw some trees people may be interested in knowing they get big. I saw whopping mangoes, maprangs, malay apples, breadnuts, jacks and a lot more. I took a couple of snaps of a few trees that are pretty big and its hard to capture it on film.



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G.dulcis and fruit




Ambarellas regrowing leaves and flower buds in spring last week




Matisia last week




Big Jaboticaba sabara



Santol tree is very tall and pole like for first 40 feet

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Re: Going Big but not at home
« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2020, 09:39:18 AM »
Maybe it's my bad eyes?
In the jabo picture it looks like some of those are single flowers? What size are
the fruit Baseball size?

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Re: Going Big but not at home
« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2020, 03:27:15 PM »
I have a Matisia that is bigger than that but the kepel impresses me.  Mine is 30 years old and not nearly that size.  How old do you think those trees are?
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Re: Going Big but not at home
« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2020, 05:26:58 PM »
It isn't easy to convey tree size in pictures. The matisia is actually pretty big and could have used a person next to it for size reference but still it is less impressive than some other trees pictured. The kepel was planted during the 1970's and jaboticaba is of similar age. The flower clusters at at least baseball size. The santol is very tall and ambarellas are around 40 to 50 years old.

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Re: Going Big but not at home
« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2020, 05:34:04 PM »
That santol trunk is impressive

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Re: Going Big but not at home
« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2020, 10:29:13 PM »
That garcinia fruit looks delicious!
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Re: Going Big but not at home
« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2020, 12:21:03 AM »
WTF I had no idea hog plums got that big!!

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« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2020, 01:00:15 AM »
This is an eye opener! Thanks Mike!
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Re: Going Big but not at home
« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2020, 05:46:20 AM »
Wow nice pics. Mike.  The G. dulcis looks like it gets huge.  I was just gifted a couple Breadnuts by a good friend, another rare fruit freak extraordinaire I met off TFF.  We are all curious what the Breadnut fruit is like, it sounds interesting?  We are aware it gets huge.  I talked Satya into taking one yesterday, he was concerned about the size.
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Re: Going Big but not at home
« Reply #9 on: September 20, 2020, 05:56:53 AM »
I nearly took a photo of a big one yesterday at around 50 ft. Seeds were all over the ground and they look just like breadfruit trees.

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Re: Going Big but not at home
« Reply #10 on: September 20, 2020, 06:04:45 AM »
I nearly took a photo of a big one yesterday at around 50 ft. Seeds were all over the ground and they look just like breadfruit trees.
Do you ever eat the fruit, what do you think of it?  The leaves are different on the couple I got.

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Re: Going Big but not at home
« Reply #11 on: September 20, 2020, 06:15:09 AM »
Like breadfruit there is a lot of variation in leaf digitation. They are like jackfruit seeds but better and you boil them, salt them and eat like chestnuts or big peanuts. In curries they go soft and are like a potato substute being starchy.

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« Reply #12 on: September 20, 2020, 06:33:57 AM »
Like breadfruit there is a lot of variation in leaf digitation. They are like jackfruit seeds but better and you boil them, salt them and eat like chestnuts or big peanuts. In curries they go soft and are like a potato substute being starchy.

Thank you for sharing your valuable knowledge.  Sounds like a keeper. 

https://www.journaljamb.com/index.php/JAMB/article/download/4478/7928/

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Re: Going Big but not at home
« Reply #13 on: September 20, 2020, 07:02:11 AM »
Nuts and seeds deserve a place at the table and seem to be in the background a bit. Try boing jackfruit seeds and in slow cooked curries and see what you think. Chempadak seeds are even better for it and I presume seeded breadfruit are just the same as breadnut. Breadnuts are grown specifically for this purpose and are probably the best.

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Re: Going Big but not at home
« Reply #14 on: September 20, 2020, 10:07:49 AM »
I just got corrected again.  Of course there is another Breadnut, a totally different spcecies, Brosimum allicastrum the Maya Breadnut.  Thank you Indian River County Frank.  Iím surprised you donít have both.



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Re: Going Big but not at home
« Reply #15 on: September 20, 2020, 08:16:30 PM »
I just got corrected again.  Of course there is another Breadnut, a totally different spcecies, Brosimum allicastrum the Maya Breadnut.  Thank you Indian River County Frank.  Iím surprised you donít have both.




Thanks for the tree Frank. Maya nut sounds very magical.

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Re: Going Big but not at home
« Reply #16 on: September 20, 2020, 08:31:28 PM »
Nice whopper trees Mike! I have whopper sized santol, ambarella, and ice cream bean trees. But those get very big in a relatively short time. The others like jaboticaba and kepel, don't usually get giant in one lifetime, unless you start gardening when you are 2 years old?  ;) I kind of doubt those 2 were planted in the 1970's. Saw really giant jaboticabas in Brazil, but was told the trees were about 150 years old!
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Re: Going Big but not at home
« Reply #17 on: September 21, 2020, 03:32:16 AM »
The sabara might have been transplanted in the 70's as a big tree already. The kepel I fugured was planted when the park was first set up and planted out in the 70's. Kepels grew fast at my place and needed to be chopped down as they were too close to the house. They grew fast and fruited fast and this was probably the mother tree.

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Re: Going Big but not at home
« Reply #18 on: September 21, 2020, 04:07:23 AM »
The sabara might have been transplanted in the 70's as a big tree already. The kepel I fugured was planted when the park was first set up and planted out in the 70's. Kepels grew fast at my place and needed to be chopped down as they were too close to the house. They grew fast and fruited fast and this was probably the mother tree.
Kepel growth subject came up before. You might have a different type of kepel? The kepel i have here grew extremely slow!
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Re: Going Big but not at home
« Reply #19 on: September 21, 2020, 05:02:22 AM »
Kepels can have much larger fruit than the 2cm to 3cm fruit size in references and fruit of this size are runts. They also fruit up high and along the branches not just the lower trunk. Even the descriptions of fruit flavour seem wrong. I don't know if there are different forms but have seen them grow and fruit faster than what is usually described. Maybe I should send some seeds to you Oscar to compare with your local trees seedlings growth rate.

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Re: Going Big but not at home
« Reply #20 on: September 21, 2020, 05:09:01 AM »
Kepels can have much larger fruit than the 2cm to 3cm fruit size in references and fruit of this size are runts. They also fruit up high and along the branches not just the lower trunk. Even the descriptions of fruit flavour seem wrong. I don't know if there are different forms but have seen them grow and fruit faster than what is usually described. Maybe I should send some seeds to you Oscar to compare with your local trees seedlings growth rate.
Some of the fruits on my kepel trees are 3 inches across (7.5 cm.). I know there are different strains. Would love to get some seeds from you. Thanks!
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« Reply #21 on: September 21, 2020, 05:19:38 AM »
You got it and yeah 3 inches is more normal.

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Re: Going Big but not at home
« Reply #22 on: September 21, 2020, 05:58:31 AM »


The kepel fruit of the pictured tree are respectable fruit not one inch brumbies.

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Re: Going Big but not at home
« Reply #23 on: September 21, 2020, 04:44:36 PM »
Question have long does this Bloke have to hold that tree up?

Is it more like the tree is holding him up!
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Re: Going Big but not at home
« Reply #24 on: September 21, 2020, 04:49:49 PM »
It was a 'hold up alright' but a return to the scene of the crime when fruit are on might be called for as he left empty handed.

 

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