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Best performing blueberry varieties
« on: November 24, 2020, 12:23:48 AM »
Hi, which are your best performing blueberries ? I'm looking for reviews on taste, production ,fruit size etc.
What do u do to acidify the soil? I have several bushes planted in pure pine forest top soil which are doing great, but i'm considering of planting more and changing the soil is a huge chore for me. So what would u recommend for amending clayish type soil? Would the plants be okay just planted in such soil which has been ammended with acidifying fertilizers ?
Also I have the following varieties ; bluecropp, darrow and two unknown , others I should consider ?
Thanks very much !!!☺☺😀
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Re: Best performing blueberry varieties
« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2020, 10:08:23 AM »
The only way i know to lower soil pH reliably is applying granulated elemental sulfur.
I think a lot of the stuff you read, such as pine straw, peat moss, etc doesn't actually work.

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Re: Best performing blueberry varieties
« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2020, 12:15:30 PM »
The only way i know to lower soil pH reliably is applying granulated elemental sulfur.
I think a lot of the stuff you read, such as pine straw, peat moss, etc doesn't actually work.
thanks ,so this route should be then..I have watered mine with coffee also ,didnt hurt thought do not know how much it helped .

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« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2020, 10:13:58 PM »
Our soil here is very alkaline, and there is nothing other than sulfur that will help, and you have to keep adding it all the time. The soil will always revert to its natural pH.  There is a blueberry farm here, and they have to add TONS of sulfur every year, and always will.
If you can, plant them in pots. Then you have total control over the mix. Mine are planted in 20 gallon pots in peat moss and bark, and do great.

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Re: Best performing blueberry varieties
« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2020, 12:25:55 AM »
Our soil here is very alkaline, and there is nothing other than sulfur that will help, and you have to keep adding it all the time. The soil will always revert to its natural pH.  There is a blueberry farm here, and they have to add TONS of sulfur every year, and always will.
If you can, plant them in pots. Then you have total control over the mix. Mine are planted in 20 gallon pots in peat moss and bark, and do great.

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thanks Carolyn ! Do u take them in a basement or something for the winter when growing in pots, or do u just let the pot freeze ?

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« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2020, 03:53:45 PM »
I just let them freeze, unless it gets REALLY cold, like low single digits. Then I toss them in the greenhouse.
And they are plastic pots, not clay, so they dont break.

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« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2020, 09:54:25 PM »
Pine needles help lower the ph. Commercially, the O'neal variety is good. If you want something beyond the usual, the Portuguese ones (Vaccinium cylindraceum and Vaccinium padifolium) are wonderful.
Allow yourself to know, if you wish, that this is a multi dimensional communication.
See what happens.

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« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2020, 03:55:30 AM »
Pine needles help lower the ph. Commercially, the O'neal variety is good. If you want something beyond the usual, the Portuguese ones (Vaccinium cylindraceum and Vaccinium padifolium) are wonderful.
thanks ,I will try to locate those plants in the nurseries around me, especially interested in cylindraceum and padifolium.

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« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2020, 06:05:00 AM »
Well my idea is different but as I haven't tested it yet I can't say if it will work.

But in the idea it is necessary to find the right rootstock, arbutus unedo is part of the family ericaceae unfortunately the genus is quite distant.
But in this family several species could have a potential as rootstock of which some blueberries are more tolerant to limestone.
Afterwards you should also experiment with direct planting because clay soils can sometimes allow the cultivation of heather soil plants.

It is always better to consider adapting your crops rather than adapting your soil, or make a huge hole and fill it with heather soil.

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« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2020, 08:12:08 AM »
Well my idea is different but as I haven't tested it yet I can't say if it will work.

But in the idea it is necessary to find the right rootstock, arbutus unedo is part of the family ericaceae unfortunately the genus is quite distant.
But in this family several species could have a potential as rootstock of which some blueberries are more tolerant to limestone.
Afterwards you should also experiment with direct planting because clay soils can sometimes allow the cultivation of heather soil plants.

It is always better to consider adapting your crops rather than adapting your soil, or make a huge hole and fill it with heather soil.

I wondered if amelanchier could be used for grafting blueberry onto, since its more tolerant of alkaline soils ,but searched it and its in the rose family ,so I think this is not possible.
For my plants I did just that, digged a trench ,lined the sides of it with nylon to isolate it from the other soil, and filled with pine forest top soil mixed with perlite. The blueberries I planted in spring grew huge, some I planted in august ant those had already stopped growing for the season . Al of them have set flower buds for the spring.
The smallest ones are wild blueberries ,which I planted just like the others . I have top dressed them with spruce needles.







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Re: Best performing blueberry varieties
« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2020, 08:51:08 AM »
Plantynium

I don't want to shatter your dreams, but yes, you're right, it's impossible.

You're dealing with 2 different botanical families: saskatoon = rosaceae (family of pear and apple), while the blueberry is part of the ericaceae family (family of arbutus unedo and rhododendron).
So in this case don't even think about experimenting.
But you can try a graft by approach of arbutus unedo and blueberry planted in the same hole and observed if the symbiosis of the two can allow the blueberry to support the soil if it is too calcareous.

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« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2020, 12:48:23 PM »
Plantynium

I don't want to shatter your dreams, but yes, you're right, it's impossible.

You're dealing with 2 different botanical families: saskatoon = rosaceae (family of pear and apple), while the blueberry is part of the ericaceae family (family of arbutus unedo and rhododendron).
So in this case don't even think about experimenting.
But you can try a graft by approach of arbutus unedo and blueberry planted in the same hole and observed if the symbiosis of the two can allow the blueberry to support the soil if it is too calcareous.
no, I am not going to experiment, it just came to mind since they are relatively similar in appearance and I've seen people refer to amelanchier as canadian blueberry or something similar .....but now I got myself wondering if it can be grafted onto apple ..haha I juess it would need some kind of interstock.....

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« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2020, 01:18:44 PM »
You've got it all figured out, in fact you'll have to use interstock.

But tell me, do you only have access to apple rootstock ?

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« Reply #13 on: December 20, 2020, 03:07:27 PM »
You've got it all figured out, in fact you'll have to use interstock.

But tell me, do you only have access to apple rootstock ?
not only apple , I can find a wild rootstock for cherries, pears, apples , plums , for almost any temperate fruiting plant we have here ......I am so focused on apple rootstock since I have a established tree in my yard . Shiro , do u know what is the best interstock for grafting ammelanchier on apple.

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« Reply #14 on: December 20, 2020, 03:11:47 PM »
You've got it all figured out, in fact you'll have to use interstock.

But tell me, do you only have access to apple rootstock ?
not only apple , I have various wild growing rootstocks , for almost any type of fruit tree thats native to my climate. Shiro , do u know what is the best interstock for grafting serviceberry on apple, maybe hawthorn ??

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« Reply #15 on: December 20, 2020, 05:15:42 PM »
Here are some possibilities
1) apple tree + interstock cydolus rudenkova + interstock pear + saskatoon tree.
2) apple tree + medlar interstock + pear interstock (doyenne du comice) + saskatoon tree.
3) ( can be ) apple tree + interstock malus florentina ( malosorbus ) + saskatoon tree.
These are just examples then it depends on the compatibility of each variety.

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« Reply #16 on: December 20, 2020, 06:15:26 PM »
Here are some possibilities
1) apple tree + interstock cydolus rudenkova + interstock pear + saskatoon tree.
2) apple tree + medlar interstock + pear interstock (doyenne du comice) + saskatoon tree.
3) ( can be ) apple tree + interstock malus florentina ( malosorbus ) + saskatoon tree.
These are just examples then it depends on the compatibility of each variety.
thanks , it sure is quite complicated of a process...I think I wont bother

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« Reply #17 on: December 20, 2020, 06:26:02 PM »
It's not really complicated if you use the whip and tongue graft technique.
You can make the assembly in only one time for the first two and then wait one year to graft the final variety (saskatoon tree).


 

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