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850FL

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Improved Huckelberries?
« on: February 16, 2021, 10:07:44 AM »
I have a lot of native huckleberries and have actually grown to like the taste as much or more than blueberries. Are there improved varieties of huckleberry? I have seen a good bit of variation in the wild ones..

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Re: Improved Huckelberries?
« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2021, 10:04:32 PM »
Here is an article about researchers trying to domesticate huckleberry.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2016/sep/21/wsu-researchers-taming-the-wild-huckleberry/%3Famp-content%3Damp&ved=2ahUKEwj2mM-D8-_uAhXJtlkKHchZBysQFjAKegQIGhAB&usg=AOvVaw3TQ7HbRok0Z4flFlWoym8h&ampcf=1

However, on further inspection it turns out that the plant they are breeding is not a true huckleberry. A lot of what is called huckleberry is actually a blueberry or blueberry relative (vaccinium species). True huckleberries should only have 10 seeds and are in the Gaylussacia species.

Although not huckleberries, Sparkle berry and Deer berry have both been used in the UF blueberry breeding program. I believe Meadowlark has some Sparkle berry parentage.

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Re: Improved Huckelberries?
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2021, 07:57:43 AM »
Interesting article. I wonder what developments have occurred since it was written.

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Re: Improved Huckelberries?
« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2021, 12:09:59 PM »
A lot of what is called huckleberry is actually a blueberry or blueberry relative (vaccinium species). True huckleberries should only have 10 seeds and are in the Gaylussacia species.

Triggered! Vaccinium huckleberries are true huckleberries.

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Re: Improved Huckelberries?
« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2021, 05:29:19 PM »
850FL, yes the wild mountain huckelberries I have tasted in Idaho mountains are the Vaccinium membranaceum we have here in the West. I like them a lot, tastes much better/different than blueberries. First time I picked/ate these was when I went to a wedding in Schweitzers Mountain resort in Idaho during the summer. I tried to grow a small plant but it didn't make it. Also got some seedling plants from a nursery and it died after 7 months. I might try growing them again this summer. I read up on this huckleberry and found that only the seed grown plants usually survives and transplanting a wild plant will not make it. May need to start the seeds indoors and keep them in a small greenhouse until they get large enough to be without protection.


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Re: Improved Huckelberries?
« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2021, 05:50:53 PM »
Oh there are some selections of V. ovatum. No idea if they're any better. https://onegreenworld.com/product-category/berries/huckleberry/

I have three V. ovatum in my yard from two sources. Of the four I planted one died, but the others have been looking good for a couple years now, growing fairly slowly. I had some flowers but I don't think the fruit made it to maturity. The ones in more shade do better. All came in 1 gallon pots.

My blueberries just put out such an overwhelming amount of flowers and berries that improving V. ovatum doesn't seem like a worthwhile pursuit. Introducing some ovatum genes into blueberries could be neat. I wouldn't be surprised if some blueberries have some ovatum in their parentage.







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Re: Improved Huckelberries?
« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2021, 06:18:57 PM »
Nate, nice plants. The ones you mention are probably better suited for backyard gardens. I have not tried any other huckleberry besides the mountain ones.

I just like the mountain huckleberry because it has a different/unique taste. Also it will remind me of the Idaho mountains where I hiked and picked fruits from the wild plants. I can buy good tasting blueberries from the store so I would not grow them in my yard since I'm out of room already.
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Re: Improved Huckelberries?
« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2021, 09:31:02 AM »
I guess what I have been eating are sparkleberries!
https://www.google.com/amp/s/floridafruitgeek.com/2018/01/28/sparkleberry-the-wild-blueberry-cousin-that-supplies-me-with-antioxidants-all-winter/amp/

He says at the end he has not been able to root cuttings or sprout seeds. I donít believe I have been able to do either as well, but I see in the wild they ground layer..

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Re: Improved Huckelberries?
« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2021, 05:34:49 PM »
I guess what I have been eating are sparkleberries!
https://www.google.com/amp/s/floridafruitgeek.com/2018/01/28/sparkleberry-the-wild-blueberry-cousin-that-supplies-me-with-antioxidants-all-winter/amp/

He says at the end he has not been able to root cuttings or sprout seeds. I donít believe I have been able to do either as well, but I see in the wild they ground layer..

I was wondering if that might be the case. To me they taste like blueberry with some cranberry mixed in.

 

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