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Where to get pouteria viridis
« on: February 22, 2021, 04:47:09 PM »
Does anyone know where to get pouteria viridis seeds or small plants? Iíve seen miamifruit but unfortunately they donít ship them to California, and Iíve seen trees for a lot of money that is out of my price range, seen fruit lovers but the seeds minimum amount plus shipping is too much :/
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Re: Where to get pouteria viridis
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2021, 05:46:35 PM »
Does anyone know where to get pouteria viridis seeds or small plants? Iíve seen miamifruit but unfortunately they donít ship them to California, and Iíve seen trees for a lot of money that is out of my price range, seen fruit lovers but the seeds minimum amount plus shipping is too much :/


I've seen green sapote seeds on http://www.fruitlovers.com/indexen.html occasionally.

I bought one off eBay, the Red Faisan. They were being sold for $60 last year free delivery but now are $150 iirc

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Re: Where to get pouteria viridis
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2021, 05:57:18 PM »
Polynesian Produce Stand in Hawai'i had 'em.

I ordered several from him last October.

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Re: Where to get pouteria viridis
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2021, 06:43:10 PM »
I will keep a look out for this fruit for sale in my area. How does the fruit taste compared to mamey? Personally mamey is ok, maybe I havenít tasted the right variety, but itís not good enough for me to have a tree in my yard

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Re: Where to get pouteria viridis
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2021, 06:59:38 PM »
Hi Julie,

Just FWIW, I got P. viridis because it is supposed to be more cold tolerant than other Pouteria species, in particular P. caimito, the Abiu and P. campechiana, the canistel.

This winter in Tampa I lost several abiu seedlings at 41ļF. while my several green sapote seedings came through unaffected.  (My canistel was fine, too, BTW.)

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Re: Where to get pouteria viridis
« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2021, 07:07:20 PM »
Hi Julie,

Just FWIW, I got P. viridis because it is supposed to be more cold tolerant than other Pouteria species, in particular P. caimito, the Abiu and P. campechiana, the canistel.

This winter in Tampa I lost several abiu seedlings at 41ļF. while my several green sapote seedings came through unaffected.  (My canistel was fine, too, BTW.)

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Yeah um about the price range... I canít get anything above $23...  :'(
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Re: Where to get pouteria viridis
« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2021, 07:11:34 PM »
Pretty safe to say you're not going to get any for $23. Maybe 2 seeds.

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Re: Where to get pouteria viridis
« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2021, 08:13:05 PM »
I will let you know when I find the fruit in season. I donít usually save the seeds as Iíd rather buy a grafted tree which is only $35.

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Re: Where to get pouteria viridis
« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2021, 08:40:41 PM »
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Re: Where to get pouteria viridis
« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2021, 08:42:17 PM »
Pretty safe to say you're not going to get any for $23. Maybe 2 seeds.
23 is a lot though imma try to get 1 seed cuz cheaper
Maimifruit sells each fruit for 10 dollars which I guess is pretty reasonable
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Re: Where to get pouteria viridis
« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2021, 09:08:27 PM »
The prices of Miami fruit are very high compared to the market price here in homestead. It may be worth it to you especially if itís a one time cost. I personally find that company very frustrating because they make it very hard for people in the area to actually buy tropical fruit here.

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Re: Where to get pouteria viridis
« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2021, 09:09:41 PM »
Yeah but as I said before, they donít ship green sapote to California
Their prices are sky high, but the price for the green sapote seems reasonable enough
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Re: Where to get pouteria viridis
« Reply #12 on: February 22, 2021, 09:15:29 PM »
Compared to the price per seed online yes.

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Re: Where to get pouteria viridis
« Reply #13 on: February 23, 2021, 07:15:53 AM »
If anyone is looking for seeds of certain fruit please let me know.  I buy various rare tropical fruit here in homestead and I can keep an eye out for you.

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Re: Where to get pouteria viridis
« Reply #14 on: February 23, 2021, 12:53:05 PM »
I got one a couple years ago from the seller 'safenut' on ebay.  They are in Hawaii, looks like they ship to CA.  I paid $27+shipping in 2018.  They are still selling them now, $40 + shipping.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/One-seedling-plant-10-12-inches-29-cm-Green-sapote-Pouteria-viridis/184642778134

it looks like mine is flowering now... is this what green sapote flower buds look like? 


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Re: Where to get pouteria viridis
« Reply #15 on: February 23, 2021, 01:12:25 PM »
I donít have any green sapote but yes, those are definetly flowers
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Re: Where to get pouteria viridis
« Reply #16 on: February 23, 2021, 03:49:47 PM »
Beautiful brian! I'm surprised it's flowering so soon. Great job.

Julie that offer is very kind, and made me regret my negativity. They are supposed to taste like mamey but slightly better. I am interested in Pouteria viridis seeds as well, but not enough to pay the $10/seed going price I've seen.

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Re: Where to get pouteria viridis
« Reply #17 on: February 23, 2021, 05:36:21 PM »
Beautiful brian! I'm surprised it's flowering so soon. Great job.

Julie that offer is very kind, and made me regret my negativity. They are supposed to taste like mamey but slightly better. I am interested in Pouteria viridis seeds as well, but not enough to pay the $10/seed going price I've seen.
Where int eh bay do you live, live near San Jose, a]wondering how close you are
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« Reply #18 on: February 23, 2021, 06:51:51 PM »
I'm in Walnut Creek. Here's my one and only P. viridis. Very grateful to the collector who hooked me up with it, whose anonymity I will respect. From my limited experience it does not seem as cold-hardy as some reports make it out, but it might be more so if it were more hardened to my climate. I prefer to start from seed when possible. The leaves had some damage at around 30 degrees IIRC, and I took it inside for fear of losing it. My two lucuma from the same collector seem a bit more cold-tolerant; I left one outside all winter up against the house under the roof overhang. I'm not sure if I should wait for the P. viridis to flush new leaves before repotting. Since it's my only one I gotta be careful.



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« Reply #19 on: February 23, 2021, 07:12:22 PM »
I'm in Walnut Creek. Here's my one and only P. viridis. Very grateful to the collector who hooked me up with it, whose anonymity I will respect. From my limited experience it does not seem as cold-hardy as some reports make it out, but it might be more so if it were more hardened to my climate. I prefer to start from seed when possible. The leaves had some damage at around 30 degrees IIRC, and I took it inside for fear of losing it. My two lucuma from the same collector seem a bit more cold-tolerant; I left one outside all winter up against the house under the roof overhang. I'm not sure if I should wait for the P. viridis to flush new leaves before repotting. Since it's my only one I gotta be careful.


Where do you get lucuma? Hard time finding one
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Re: Where to get pouteria viridis
« Reply #20 on: February 23, 2021, 07:23:35 PM »
Where do you get lucuma? Hard time finding one

From here https://www.wildlandsplants.com/shop/p/pouteria-lucuma

Another source I've considered trying recently, but a bit too expensive for me: https://www.ebay.com/itm/4-LUCUMA-SEED-Pouteria-lucuma-makes-a-FRUIT-TREE-PLANT-8b6/154336279897?hash=item23ef28bd59:g:lJwAAOSwYmVgLqHC

Keep in mind lucuma is supposed to take about 15 years to fruit.



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« Reply #21 on: February 23, 2021, 07:33:29 PM »
Where do you get lucuma? Hard time finding one

From here https://www.wildlandsplants.com/shop/p/pouteria-lucuma

Another source I've considered trying recently, but a bit too expensive for me: https://www.ebay.com/itm/4-LUCUMA-SEED-Pouteria-lucuma-makes-a-FRUIT-TREE-PLANT-8b6/154336279897?hash=item23ef28bd59:g:lJwAAOSwYmVgLqHC

Keep in mind lucuma is supposed to take about 15 years to fruit.


Yes I’m so eager to get lucuma because it takes so long to fruit, I’m in elementary school so I can wait a while
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Re: Where to get pouteria viridis
« Reply #22 on: February 23, 2021, 08:15:31 PM »
Beautiful brian! I'm surprised it's flowering so soon. Great job.

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Is it typical for green sapote SEEDLING to flower after only a couple years and at a small size?  I am wondering if maybe I picked up a grafted one at Excalibur when I was there but I'm pretty sure I didn't.  I definitely have an email from buying a seedling green sapote from ebay Aug 2018 and I don't recall one dying.  The tree flowering in my picture does kinda look like it has a graft line so I am l doubting myself now that this is actually a seedling, but that's what the receipt says.  This site https://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/1492/sapote.html says they take ~7 years from seed to fruit?  Mine can't be more than four. 

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« Reply #23 on: February 23, 2021, 09:10:00 PM »
Now that you mention it I did think it was odd one from eBay came with that white nursery tag around the trunk. It looks like it's flowering below the possible graft union? I'm reading it's often grafted on mamey. 12 years, 7-8 years, and 4-12 years to fruit reported from different sources, but similar ranges given for mamey. You should be able to tell by the flowers if it's green or mamey.

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Re: Where to get pouteria viridis
« Reply #24 on: February 23, 2021, 09:19:55 PM »
The flowering green sapote looks like it was grafted and the scion if from a mature tree. I can see a graft union slightly under the flowers
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